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Old August 14th, 2004, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Why no love for Caelum?

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Master's of the Way.

You can not beat PD up to 20 with W1 1? mage without items. (unless you are hoping to get 1 Air pick and cast the same Lesser Horrors that I mentioned. Which would not be as efficient as W1 A2 seraphs. Forzen Hearts will not stop large PD.)Also he is not flying, not stealthy, meaning he can only attack provinces next to him.

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Seithkona,

Same as with Master of way. You can not beat PD up to 20 with S D N mage. Also not flying, not stealthy, meaning can attack only province next to him.


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Theurgs (At 150),

This one the only mage from those you mentioned that can do it. (Which is not a surprise since they have exactly the same magic paths as seraph ). However they cost 50% more than seraph. They can't fly, meaning can't attack anything other them province next to them, unless you are going to waste 3 air gems to send him on suicide mission deep into enemy back, which is not a good trade.

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Initiates of the Deep.

You gotta be kidding Zen. W1 Initiate of the Deep beating 20 PD without items? Quickness and frozen hearts? Yeah, right.


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There are quite a few, they just don't happen to all fly as well. If you are so concerned with PD and their lack of fightability during any stage of the game, you are probably up the ganjies without a paddle.
Zen, you are missing the point. You said "That is the absolute first time I've heard of Caelum being the 'province defense killers".

Than you have tried to bring some examples of other nation being as good PD killers as Caelum at the same cost (100 gp). As I showed above - they do not even come close. The fact that PD suck in general is well know to everybody and totally irrelivent to the discussion of either Caelum is the best PD killer or not.
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