OT: Objective moral truth

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deccan said:Put in the prescriptive, active form outlined above, one can examine some of the properties that this "objective morality" must necessarily have in other to fit the criteria described:

1) It must be timeless and eternal.
2) It must exist externally to thinking beings and independently of them.
3) In order for it to matter in any way, it must also be somehow accessible to such thinking beings.

And let me leave with another thing to think about: it appears that much of mathematics and formal logic also possess the properties of timelessness etc. So if I claim that the weird properties possessed by an "objective morality" makes it suspect within a naturalistic frame work, would the same argument apply to mathematics and logic?

Number 3 there...

With math, you can observe the results of adding 1+1 by putting one thing in a box and then adding one more.
Multiplication by making a grid x wide and y tall.

Is there any way to observe some sort of basic properties that could be extended into a general "objective morality"?