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Old April 26th, 2007, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: Western OPFOR in Durango Valley

To PlasmaKrab:
Any idea how to keep the US unit list and remove the Chinese one? Or to take the map, buy new units for OPFOR and rebuy same US units? (without doing it one by one).

To Sarunas:
I found the post I was refering to. It was in a forum, so don't take it like direct report:
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when i was with the 1AC me and a couple other guys went over to germany to conduct war games with the french and the germans. the 1AD was in iraq, so they didnt have enough manpower left in rear det to conduct them, so we got to do it. the french did better than the germans, even though the leo 2 is probably (actually, almost certainly) the best tank out of the 3 (leclerc, leo 2, M1A1). like i said, french were decent except they were so worried about getting the first shot out, they almost never hit us with it on the first try. that's too bad for them because they did manage to get on our flanks a couple times.

and the germans just had no creativity, at all, they were an open book. they were upset with us for playing the offensive team, digging 3/4 of our tanks into hull down positions and concealing them, and then using the remaining 1/4 to flush them out of their positions (which were dug exactly by the book and thus were childsplay to recognize) and drive them toward our waiting ambush. they actually accused us of cheating because we forced them to move by doing consistent hit and fade tactics on their rear armor to drive them into our ambush.

they did start to learn eventually though.

point is, in training at least, they werent as good as our US crews. who knows who'd do better on the battlefield, like you said, neither french or german tankers have been tested. it's unfortunate too, the leopard II is arguably one of the best MBT's in the world right now.
The guy speeks of Iraq, so it may have been back in the 90': he was, if I remember correctly on a M1A1. The opposing tank in 1990 must have been any Leo 2 type and AMX-30B2 but not Leclerc (error?). Other possibility, it was 1 to 3 years ago but I serously doubt about that: 1AD was in Iraq in 1990 but not in 2003.
Then both German and French units would include conscripts...
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