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				 What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 This may be like asking Scrooge where he hides his money, or like Chekov asking the San Francisco policeman where to find the nuclear vessels, but I'll try anyway.  I was wondering what race designs everyone likes, and why?   
From the "gamey tactics" thread I see that aggressive-defensive-bezerker is a favorite combination, but I'm sure there are others.  I am new to SE4 and PBW, so I would greatly appreciate any advice you could give in this extremely important area.  Thanks!    |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 All five (or six in P&N) major racial traits, plus Living Ships if possible.  Then whatever negatives are required to achieve this. 
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 51% on repair50% on Ground Combat
 51% on Tolerance...
 
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				December 23rd, 2002, 05:19 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 SJ - An organic, crystalline, temporal, religious, and psychic race?  They would indeed be great pirates.  I imagine the crossover components make them even more fun.      
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 Yep.  And in P&N, gravitic manipulation too.     
Repair can be reduced greatly because ships rarely survive damage in unmodded SE4.
 
In fleet-on-fleet combat, you either do not get shot at, or you die. 
Also, with the preponderance of shields, your enemy has to do between 80% and 99% damage to hurt you without killing you.  That is pretty rare.
 
So, for the most part, you get X dead ships, Y undamaged ships, and a 20% chance of a single crippled ship.
 
Even for retrofitting ships, all you need is a second dedicated repair base.  The extra cost in bases and repair ships is minimal.
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 Here is what I have been using the most, although, I can already see that this will have to change... I never dreamt of running something all the way down to 50!!!!
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 Artisans
 
 Physical Characteristics
 Physical Strength		100
 Intelligence		        100
 Cunning		                100
 Environmental        		80
 Reproduction	        	100
 Happiness	        	100
 Aggressiveness	        	90
 Defensiveness	        	90
 Political Savvy	        	80
 
 Vocational Aptitude
 Mining           		95
 Farming	                	95
 Refining         		95
 Construction	        	120
 Repair	                	95
 Maintenance		        120
 
 
 Advanced Traits
 Propulsion
 Storage
 Industrialists
 Organic
 
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 Here's one option:
 Culture: Engineers, Artisans, whatever fits the race RP-wise
 
 Physical Characteristics
 Physical Strength		50
 Intelligence		        150
 Cunning		                50
 Environmental        		96
 Reproduction	        	100
 Happiness	        	100
 Aggressiveness	        	75
 Defensiveness	        	125
 Political Savvy	        	50
 
 Vocational Aptitude
 Mining           		120
 Farming	                	60
 Refining         		90
 Construction	        	***
 Repair	                	50
 Maintenance		        120
 
 *** = "whatever I can afford"
 
 Advanced Traits	: Advanced Storage
 : Religious
 
 And another:
 
 Culture: Engineers, Artisans, whatever fits the race RP-wise
 
 Physical Characteristics
 Physical Strength		50
 Intelligence		        150
 Cunning		                50
 Environmental        		96
 Reproduction	        	100
 Happiness	        	100
 Aggressiveness	        	100
 Defensiveness	        	100
 Political Savvy	        	50
 
 Vocational Aptitude
 Mining           		100
 Farming	                	100
 Refining         		100
 Construction	        	***
 Repair	                	50
 Maintenance		        120
 
 *** = "whatever I can afford"
 
 Advanced Traits	: Advanced Storage
 : Organic
 
 For P&N, I usually try to get either Living Ships (especially with organic races), or Advanced Automation.  "Big Thinkers" is also a fun one.
 
 In general -- I don't bother with covert action, except to defend, so Cunning is irrelevant.  Trade income, well, I'd rather pump those points into my own economy than rely on the friendliness of others.  Physical strength, numbers can overcome that.  With religious races, plan on the talisman and drop your aggression through the floor.  I then like to pay as little in maintenance as possible, and build as fasta s possible; if I need stuff repaired, I'll pile on repair components.  And so on.
 
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 Thanks for the ideas, everyone, keep them coming!
 SJ - Thanks for the explanation of why repair is unnecessary.  I usually do a lot of retrofitting, so I mistakenly assumed that I would need a good repair rate.
 
 I am curious about hardy industrialists.  Does the advanced trait supercede the construction rate, or do they add together (or multiply)?  In other words, if I pick hardy industrialists and a 125% construction rate, is my actual construction rate 125%, 150%, or 156%?
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
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				 Re: What are the characteristics of your favorite race? 
 I don't usually pick racial traits anymore, but I am quite fond of Advanced Storage Techniques.  5 extra fac's on every huge world does add up after a while....    |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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