OT: Movies You Have Seen Lately

tesco samoa · #1 May 25th, 2003, 06:58 AM

i saw it as well.

The comment about swearing in french was funny.

And the chase was ummmmm..... fantastic..... as was the smith thing.

Funny I did not really like the first movie.... But I liked the second one.

Aloofi · #2 May 27th, 2003, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:

Funny I did not really like the first movie.... But I liked the second one.

Hehe, I'm exactly the oposite, I didn't like the second one, but I love the first one.

What I didn't like in Matrix Reloaded:

1- Martial arts.
It was lame. Unlike in the first movie in which a very careful work was done, in this one there were some mistakes, it felt like opera, like choreography. Most hits were not concentrated at the contact point, tecnique was poor, especially in the lower train (legs position) while doing upper train hits. (you can see this in Neo's fight with the program protecting the Oracle). Neo's and Morpheous's styles were good looking, but failed to concentrate their hits. Most other styles were rather poor.

2-Computer Animation.
This one was the movie killer for me. Computer Generated characters were use in close up takes, showing openly that they were not real. The worst scene was the fight between Neo and Agent Smith. about half way into the scene Neo becomes a CG character, and it pushed me completely out of the movie, it was so awful that it felt like there was somebody else fighting in there! Also of notice is the scene of Neo flying. I wonder why they dare to use CG characters in close ups. That brakes completely with the principle of special effects of trying to make believe the audience that its real. On the other hand, the free way scene have a many CG cars and trucks, and with the exception of the 2 trucks that crash at the end, you can't tell which one is real and which one is not. This is because unanimated objects can be made very crediable with computers, but living things, especially humans, can not. They didn't even use photo mapping like in Lords of the Rings with the Gollum character. Basicly, the effectes were not bad, but they were poorly used, so the blame is completely on the Wachoski brothers, not the companies making the effects.

3- The message.
The anti-media, anti corporative message is still there, but it took me 2 times watching the movie to see it. Why? Because now their message is hidden below an extra layer of misiformation. Because now the Matrix is a major movie, part of the stablishment, a big buck maker, unlike the first one, that was a risky uber-indie filmed in Australia and an unexpected box office hit. Still, you can dig out the message by the names of characters, ships, the city, by some lines said mostly by supporting characters (unlike in the first one) and by many visual clues, which is actually an improvement from the first one, in which most info was spoken by the main characters.

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tesco samoa · #3 May 27th, 2003, 09:58 PM

Ying / Yang

zen. · #4 May 28th, 2003, 06:46 AM

hm?

Reloaded gave a lot of bang for the buck; but somehow I ended up more interested in X2. Different stories/genres/whatever, perhaps, but for some reason there was more heart in X2. Did anyone notice after a while that the outlaw programs/Smith/whoever began emoting more than the humans did? Interesting contrast.

zen

Rollo · #5 June 1st, 2003, 02:18 AM

Matrix Reloaded..
*Rollo yawns.

I can't make up my mind whether it was more boring or silly. At any rate it was both.

The first one was groundbreaking. This one is just bad.

Rollo

Narrew · #6 June 1st, 2003, 02:52 AM

Well, its hard not to see Messages in movies these days. I did got a bit miff at the slam against Bush jr. There was a montague of evil pictures of our history, and right after a large picture of Hitler, there was a large one of Bush jr. It is one thing to disagree with someone, but it is quite another to compare Bush to Hitler (of course that is how I take it, and once again I am biased).

As someone else said, X2 was better.

Oh, that new Sean Connery movie looks great, the League of Extordanry Gentlemen. Is that a spin-off of something else, reminded me of the old Avengers.

Katchoo · #7 June 1st, 2003, 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by Narrew:
Oh, that new Sean Connery movie looks great, the League of Extordanry Gentlemen. Is that a spin-off of something else, reminded me of the old Avengers.

It's based on a comic book of the same name by Alan Moore (The Watchmen, Swamp Thing, to name a few).

Apparently they're already planning a sequal for it