PBW ethics, opinions please.

Gozra · #1 January 15th, 2003, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by couslee:
I believe he is refrencing the post made, where a player traded an un visited system for an AI home planet. That was very gamey imo.

Taking advantage of a stupid AI is also gamey, IE trading an unvisited system for a homeworld. The gamey part is in the thought of even attempting this, not in the fact the AI was stupid enough to agree to it.

Those that think it is not gamey, are of the same class of people that think nothing is a crime if you don't get caught.

GOZRA: I resent being lumped in with the "same class of people" That trade seems interesting to say the least. A fully developed homeworld for an entire system? I might make that trade with a human.

All I say to that, is know who your entering into a MP game with. If you accept a game challange from people that feel anything goes, then don't complain later that they lived up to their reputation. or, try and be more cheezy than they are. Hacking game files is blantant cheating, and if done will suceed in noone playing a game with you again. I am talking about questionable tactics, not outright cheating.

GOZRA: I will award the 20 galtic credits to you if you can get 3 others to agree that trading with the AI is Gamey.

send the credits to realpissed_2000@yahoo.com. thank you.

[ January 15, 2003, 21:13: Message edited by: Gozra ]

Ruatha · #2 January 15th, 2003, 11:29 PM

I found something I think is Gamey ( A new term for me, I'd rather think of it as cheating).

Using my Invisible shipset, with invisible ships in a game were the others don't know you are using it.

[ January 15, 2003, 21:30: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

Gryphin · #3 January 15th, 2003, 11:42 PM

Ruatha
How would you be able to do that other than in a hot seat game?

Fyron · #4 January 15th, 2003, 11:43 PM

Well... you have to download the ship sets used by other players in the game, or you'll get randomly changing sets.

Gryphin · #5 January 16th, 2003, 12:35 AM

EDIT: was not intended to be ironic. "can" should have been "can't".
Fyron, right, I guess I can't imagine someone down loading a ship set and not looking at a few of the ships.
what am I missing here?

Is this gamey?
Start a series of "Play Style" or "Play Preferances" thread to see if your advesarys will give away their play style.

[ January 15, 2003, 23:53: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

capnq · #6 January 16th, 2003, 12:44 AM

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If you were a real leader of a race that's just discovered how to colonise other worlds, would you really order your scientists to research 'physics' up to 'level 2' in order to be able to research 'phased polaron beams'?

That was one of my favorite things about the 'blind research' option in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. You only specified the general area of tech you wanted your scientists to focus on, but had no control over what specific tech they'd discover.

DavidG · #7 January 16th, 2003, 01:44 AM

To Gozra:

Are you saying you would actually trade your home planet for an empty system???
It sort of sounds like maybe you didn't realize what SamuriProgrammers friend did. He selected Ancient Race, claimed a system he have NEVER been to and then traded it to the AI for his home planet!! Clearly there is a bug on how the AI evaluates the trade value of a system

Generaly I'm of the opinion that if the game allows it it's fair play (the opposition to retro series building really baffles me!) but I think we should avoid taking advantage of really obvious bugs like this. Of course this is just one reason to play PBW all human games.