Maintenace Value

[Fyron]

I think that it does say it lowers base maintenance costs somewhere official.

[Slick]

To quote my wife...

"...half of one, six dozen of another, it makes no difference..."

Slick.

[DirectorTsaarx]

Originally posted by DavidG:
So is there a bug in the Maintence value for your racial trait?? I just experimented with this and the results you get are clearly not in line with the values you select. ie you would think that if you choose 110% for maintenance you would be 10% better that a race with the default 100%. But this is not the case!!! Could be why I'm getting my but kicked in a PBW game.

So you think you're getting your butt kicked because everyone else chose to reduce their maintenance costs by 10% (i.e., instead of paying 25% maintenance, only paying 15% maintenance)? Or did you modify the maintenance in the wrong direction (i.e., you're now paying 35% maintenance instead of 25%)?

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Slick:
To quote my wife...

"...half of one, six dozen of another, it makes no difference..."

Slick.

half of one = .5
six dozen of another = 72

You are telling me that .5 and 72 are the same?

I think the correct cliche is "...half dozen of one, six of another, it makes no difference..."



But anyways, the difference between lowering maintenance paid and base maintenance cost is enormous! Assume the maintenance is 1000.

Lower maintenance paid by 10%, you get 900.

Lower base maintenance paid by 10%, you get:
1000 / 0.25 = 4000 (cost of ship)
4000 * 0.15 = 600

That subtle difference of wording makes quite a big difference!

[DavidG]

[quote]Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:

So you think you're getting your butt kicked because everyone else chose to reduce their maintenance costs by 10% (i.e., instead of paying 25% maintenance, only paying 15% maintenance)? Or did you modify the maintenance in the wrong direction (i.e., you're now paying 35% maintenance instead of 25%)?

Well the butt kicking is a bit debatable (and could be due to other factors :-) )but my point was that I never realized the effect of changing your racial maintenance value. I think it is clearly a VERY missleading. IE. I had always assumed that choosing 110% Maintenance trait would mean you are 10% better than normal when in fact it is much much higher. I think all the other traits work that way don't they???

As others have not pointed out the math is like so:
100% value = 25% maintenance
110% value = 15% maintenance

I gather there may be something in the manual somewhere that says this is the way it is but certainly there is nothing to suggest this on the race setup screeen

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You are telling me that .5 and 72 are the same?
[/QB]

Well I think his wife is.

I think Slick was submiting an entry to the "hillareous things our women say" thread.

[oleg]

[quote]Originally posted by DavidG:

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Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:

So you think you're getting your butt kicked because everyone else chose to reduce their maintenance costs by 10% (i.e., instead of paying 25% maintenance, only paying 15% maintenance)? Or did you modify the maintenance in the wrong direction (i.e., you're now paying 35% maintenance instead of 25%)?

Well the butt kicking is a bit debatable (and could be due to other factors :-) )but my point was that I never realized the effect of changing your racial maintenance value. I think it is clearly a VERY missleading. IE. I had always assumed that choosing 110% Maintenance trait would mean you are 10% better than normal when in fact it is much much higher. I think all the other traits work that way don't they???

As others have not pointed out the math is like so:
100% value = 25% maintenance
110% value = 15% maintenance

I gather there may be something in the manual somewhere that says this is the way it is but certainly there is nothing to suggest this on the race setup screeen

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In addition to maintenance, happines,reproduction and tolerance are not what one would think of.

[ January 15, 2003, 12:04: Message edited by: oleg ]