*()_+*&@!+_)(^&^^Fleet Experience

Fyron · #1 February 1st, 2003, 11:23 PM

Holding the empty fleet as a shell would be bad. You can't have a fleet of nothing.

tbontob · #2 February 2nd, 2003, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Holding the empty fleet as a shell would be bad. You can't have a fleet of nothing.

I agree with you Fyron.

Yet, it would be nice if we had something like couslee suggests, a warning when we are about to remove the Last ship. If we say "no", then the Last ship stays in that fleet.

The warning wouldn't have to apply to all fleets, it could be discretionary. All fleets would start out with no warning. But if we want to be warned when a particular fleet is about to zero out, then we tick a box or something on the fleet and voila...protection from accidentally deleting a fleet.

Or something. Maybe the ability to resurrect the fleet if we do not make another input into the computer. Or the zeroed fleet stays in the window until we close the window. Anything would be better than what we have now.

[ February 01, 2003, 22:40: Message edited by: tbontob ]

Stone Mill · #3 February 2nd, 2003, 05:01 AM

Yep, this stinks, especially when you are at the end of a long turn.

Otherwise, to state the obvious (simultaneous), you have to quit your turn and start it again to recover the fleet.

tbontob · #4 February 2nd, 2003, 05:26 AM

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Originally posted by Stone Mill:
Yep, this stinks, especially when you are at the end of a long turn.

Otherwise, to state the obvious (simultaneous), you have to quit your turn and start it again to recover the fleet.

That was my fear

What I try to do now, is to make whatever transfers between fleets I think I may need to make right at the beginning of the turn.

This way if I screw up, it is a simple thing to restart the turn and only a little bit of time is lost.

That is the only "protective" measure I have come up with.

Anybody else have any ideas?

couslee · #5 February 2nd, 2003, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Holding the empty fleet as a shell would be bad. You can't have a fleet of nothing.

I don't know about that. If you have a fleet of ships, that are all dock in port, it is still a fleet. A sad example of that was the Pacific fleet was not out&about but all anchored at Pearl Harbor (not done any more), but it was still a fleet. If shell fleets were allowed, I would agree that they should be deleted if no ships are in when you hit end turn. But considering the major effect fleet experience has in the game, to lose that benefit all due to a mis-click or brain fart is even worse.

tbontob · #6 February 2nd, 2003, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by couslee:

quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Holding the empty fleet as a shell would be bad. You can't have a fleet of nothing.

I don't know about that. If you have a fleet of ships, that are all dock in port, it is still a fleet. A sad example of that was the Pacific fleet was not out&about but all anchored at Pearl Harbor (not done any more), but it was still a fleet. If shell fleets were allowed, I would agree that they should be deleted if no ships are in when you hit end turn. But considering the major effect fleet experience has in the game, to lose that benefit all due to a mis-click or brain fart is even worse.

I look at the window of the fleets with their ships on a par of an admiral having to decide what ships to put into what fleets.

No ships change fleets until he gives the order.

Closing the window can be considered as "giving the order".

Up till then it is just "experimenting" with moving ships around to find the best configuration as some admirals are prone to do.

[ February 02, 2003, 03:53: Message edited by: tbontob ]

Fyron · #7 February 2nd, 2003, 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by couslee:

quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Holding the empty fleet as a shell would be bad. You can't have a fleet of nothing.

I don't know about that. If you have a fleet of ships, that are all dock in port, it is still a fleet. A sad example of that was the Pacific fleet was not out&about but all anchored at Pearl Harbor (not done any more), but it was still a fleet. If shell fleets were allowed, I would agree that they should be deleted if no ships are in when you hit end turn. But considering the major effect fleet experience has in the game, to lose that benefit all due to a mis-click or brain fart is even worse.

Yeah. If the pacific fleet (including all it's admirals) was destroyed or if all the ships (and admirals) were transfered out of it, the Pacific Fleet would be no more. It would not be some ghost entity floating around waiting for new ships.