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Aloofi · #1 February 17th, 2003, 03:31 PM

Which file do I have to tinker so I get 19 Cultural centers and a shipyard in the starting planet instead of 16 Cultural Centers, a shipyard, an Spaceport, a resuply and a Rad complex?
Is it there any graphic for a mega Spaceport-resuply-shipyard-cargo facility that can be set for inaccesible tech and avaliable only for the starting planet?

oleg · #2 February 17th, 2003, 03:45 PM

You don't realy need them.
Research computers and build robotoid factory and the building that boosts research (forget the name) instaed of spaceport and resuply depot.
You will get more from existing centers than having two more

seriously though, it is not easy to do, you will need to rework facilities.txt file in /data folder.

Aloofi · #3 February 17th, 2003, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by oleg:
seriously though, it is not easy to do, you will need to rework facilities.txt file in /data folder.[/QB]

Facilities.text?
But where exactly it says which building make it to the Homeworld?
I just want a mega space-yard-port that can't be replicated it in a colony.
I love the Homeworld concept in Proportions...

[ February 17, 2003, 14:07: Message edited by: Aloofim ]

oleg · #4 February 17th, 2003, 04:23 PM

I think you can achieve what you want by moving Cultural centers from their own Category into the same Category as spaceports and/or resupply depot. Then SE may chose them in the begining of the game. As to radioactive magaplex - it happens only at full tech start. As PvK mentioned many times, he never intended Proportions to be played that way. It should always be played with low/medium tech.

Aloofi · #5 February 17th, 2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by oleg:
I think you can achieve what you want by moving Cultural centers from their own Category into the same Category as spaceports and/or resupply depot. Then SE may chose them in the begining of the game. As to radioactive magaplex - it happens only at full tech start. As PvK mentioned many times, he never intended Proportions to be played that way. It should always be played with low/medium tech.

Guess what, I got a Rad Megaplex starting with medium tech, and it have a roman number 4 on it!
It never happened before. I usually get 17 Cultural centers, the Spaceport, resuply and Shipyard.
I'm gonna try what you told me of building the robofactory.
Still, i would like to have a unique Mega Spaceport-shipyard for the homeworld. Its not just a problem of production, but of unique looks.

PvK · #6 February 17th, 2003, 09:57 PM

I think the closest image I made was the combo spaceport & resupply depot. All you'd have to do is find an image you like, and then add spaceyard abilities to that facility, and give it only tech requirements that you will start the game with. You might want to make it pretty expensive (it should cost more than the cost of a combo spaceport/resupply AND a shipyard combined). There will also be an issue in that if you have three tech levels, it will be more expensive to upgrade than a plain shipyard, but I guess that's a tradeoff with combining them in one.

Sounds like you actually want two things - a different-looking spaceyard for the homeworld, and a triple-combo facility for colonies. Since cultural centers include supply and spaceports, there's no real reason to use the combo SY on the homeworld.

Edit/PS: Tje Rads complex (not megaplex) with numeral IV is (IIRC) available with the Industrial starting tech given by a Medium Tech start. It's a TL 1 extraction complex - industry lets you build complexes rather than just facilities. Higher tech will let you build the megaplexes. The Minerals extraction tech will let you build higher levels of whatever size you choose. So there are 9 levels of conventional minerals extraction. If you research Minerals extraction to level 2 from a medium tech start, you'd get Min Fac 2 (II) and Min Complex 2 (V) - you then have a choice of speed and quick return on investment, versus higher investment for higher eventual returns.

Edit/PS 2: Although there is a file for homeworld RE-construction, the only way to change what starts on a homeworld is to understand how the computer chooses, and then give it things that it will choose. I.E., more or less, first it builds the most constructive spaceyard fac, then a resupply depot and spaceyard (with some details I'm forgetting), then it fills about half the remaining planet with the most productive minerals facs, then it fills the rest with the most productive research facs, except for one of the most productive organics facs, and one of the most productive rads facs. In Proportions 2.5.x, a Rads megaplex is the only production facility that actually out-produces a cultural center, in its one Category.

PvK

[ February 17, 2003, 20:09: Message edited by: PvK ]

Aloofi · #7 February 17th, 2003, 10:23 PM

PvK, you got me lost.
How do you make it appear in a homeworld?
What is the trick to make it an starting facility?

I just want the Huge mega Space port-resuply-shipyard in the homeworld, not the colonies. Its just like your Cultural Centers, to simulate a developed homeworld as oppouse to a colony.
I mean, a homeworld will always have a shipyard, but then why to have the same shipyard that we can build in the colonies? why not have a unique huge shipyard that represents years (or centuries) of investments from the first day a rocket made it to orbit?