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				 Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available 
 JLS, cool down man, the Last thing we want to see is fighting between modders. Aren't mods suppose to be public?
 Just take Proportions and merge it with the AIC and the Tactical fighter Mod.
 If you don't, I will.
 I definitively want an improved fighter combat model with Proportions.
 
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				 Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available 
 
	Hehe, Aic IS the merge of Proportions with some JLC ideasQuote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Aloofi: JLS, cool down man, the Last thing we want to see is fighting between modders.
 Aren't mods suppose to be public?
 Just take Proportions and merge it with the AIC and the Tactical fighter Mod.
 If you don't, I will.
 I definitively want an improved fighter combat model with Proportions.
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				 Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available 
 
	Hmmm, I actually like current Proportions' fighters. Very balanced weapon selection IMHO. "combat-only" fighters would be a nice addition but overall it looks about right for me.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Aloofi: I definitively want an improved fighter combat model with Proportions.[/QB]
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				 Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available 
       
Ok, im cooled down!
 
My intent with the AIC Mods was not to improve Proportions; 
 
But was to show that the AI can compete, with a Human Players with the Modifications  I released with AIC and only with Proportions as the Host!  
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This thing is of me (“REWORKING his fighter idea”???) did get me inflamed.
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				 Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available 
 
	Hmmm, I actually like current Proportions' fighters. Very balanced weapon selection IMHO. "combat-only" fighters would be a nice addition but overall it looks about right for me.[/QB]Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by oleg: 
 quote:Originally posted by Aloofi:
 I definitively want an improved fighter combat model with Proportions.
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 There is nothing wrong with current Proportion fighters; they are pretty much the same as, the base se4 fighters.
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 But the premise,  is that the AI can not defend properly against a Long Range Carrier attack on his home world!
   
 This was my reason for the  Tactical Fighter Mod  …
 Fighters now move in Tactical combat only.  On the Strategic map, when launched over a planet or any sector, they remain on combat patrol for that sector until recovered by a Carrier or your planet.
 
 "(When you attack a planet, you will now need to commit your fleet and Carriers  where the AI will be able to defend itself )  ouch!"
 
 I also tried to address some stacking issues with fighters versus Ships.
 And I have been getting a lot of positive response for this effort.
  
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				 Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available 
 AI can compete with your modifications as well as with AI bonus turned on in a non-AIcampaign game. You provide the AI cheaper components/facilities and a helping AI research tree. Well, I know it is a lot of work to balance everything out and I certainly do not have the modding experience to see everything about it, but this is easy to see (e.g. AI Wormhole opener components just cost 1000 minerals etc.).
 Don't get me wrong, I like your ideas and it is certainly better in order to finetune the given AI bonus instead of just putting the bonus level to low/med/high.
 I just don't like the statement "competing AI" if the reality behind it is a bonus in fact.
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				 Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available 
 [quote]Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak: 
	Good Point,  PsychoTechFreak.Quote: 
	
		| Don't get me wrong, I like your ideas and it is certainly better in order to finetune the given AI bonus instead of just putting the bonus level to low/med/high. I just don't like the statement "competing AI" if the reality behind it is a bonus in fact.
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   I should have stated, with a leveler Playing field
 
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