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March 25th, 2003, 03:29 PM
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Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
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Actually, I think it would be better to increase "seaker damage resistance" instead of speed. Make it two PDC shots per missile instead of one.
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And you would be acomplishing exactly the same, one shot per missile.....
With speed 30 they behave like real missiles now. There no more outrunning the missile. If you are far away you might still get out of range, cause the missile still behaving like a cruise missile, launching in one turn and flying to target in the next, so if you see missiles launched and you dont have PDCs, make a run for your life....
Also, this uber-missile benefits mostly the AI, cause we humans know that pound by pound missiles are not worth the effort. They weight too much and reload too slow. Even the lowly Meson BLaster is a better weapon.
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March 25th, 2003, 04:23 PM
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Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
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It isn't a matter of taste, it is a matter of making the game better.
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It will certainly make strategic combat better.
Tactical combat would be hit hard, if not removed altogether.
Although, if instead of jsut play and pause, you had a "step forward" button that would leave the game paused, but move it a head some minimum amount of time, it would effectively become turn based in tactical... Seeing the missiles and torpedoes and beams paused in mid-flight would be pretty cool too 
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March 25th, 2003, 08:09 PM
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Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
SJ: That solution works too, and just goes to prove that real-time can be not bad at all. 
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March 26th, 2003, 12:20 AM
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Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
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Originally posted by Aloofi:
quote: Originally posted by oleg:
Actually, I think it would be better to increase "seaker damage resistance" instead of speed. Make it two PDC shots per missile instead of one.
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And you would be acomplishing exactly the same, one shot per missile.....
Increasing the seeker damage resistance wouldn't be exactly the same effect, though it would be similar in some ways.
I would tend to recommend taking advantage of the new ability in 1.84 for giving seekers a to-hit penalty. Unfortunately, it is applied in Settings.txt to all seekers, rather than being assignable per weapon model.
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With speed 30 they behave like real missiles now. There no more outrunning the missile. If you are far away you might still get out of range, cause the missile still behaving like a cruise missile, launching in one turn and flying to target in the next, so if you see missiles launched and you dont have PDCs, make a run for your life....
Also, this uber-missile benefits mostly the AI, cause we humans know that pound by pound missiles are not worth the effort. They weight too much and reload too slow. Even the lowly Meson BLaster is a better weapon.
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Hmm, I tend to think both Meson BLasters and missiles are both effective weapons in Proportions fleet battles, with different strengths and weaknesses, of course. It's true that just heavy missiles will tend to be intercepted by heavy PD, but if you include rapid-firing light missiles, and/or swarms of cheap ships, it can become quite hard to shoot them all down. If the PD also have fighters and drones to deal with, suddenly even large amounts of PD can be overwhelmed.
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March 26th, 2003, 12:55 PM
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Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
I never been able to use Light Missiles effectively.  May be I just not good in ship design 
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March 27th, 2003, 09:37 AM
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Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
They need to be combined with the heavies. I've beaten technologically superior (bonus'ed) beam-armed AI Druschockans who had been wiping out my direct-fire ships, by engaging them with greater numbers of mostly small cheap missile ships with a mix of missile types.
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April 21st, 2003, 01:08 AM
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Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
Could somebody please tell me if it is possible to develope a race which can only invest in its own unique tech structures and not in the normal standard SE4 tech structure?
This would be fine, because if this is possible a race could be totally different from others. (other ships sizes, different facility structures and builtup strategy - eg hives instead of cities, other units types than the others etc.)
thanks for the info
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