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	Sorry, i will, thought it was clear alreadyQuote: 
	
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	"I think the world could avoid a lot of problems if those selling weapons cared a little more about how and who would be using them."Quote: 
	
		| Re: anti personel mines. How Can anyone defend the production of a weapon that maims 22000 civilians every year?? (and I sure that number includes a ton of children) Sure the problem may be not cleaning them up but frankly I think the world could avoid a lot of problems if those selling weapons cared a little more about how and who would be using them. |  
 Why make them at all??? US(and ofcourse other countries) should stop make these things. Anyone who owns stuff they can't use can thrown it away. If countries have them, they WILL use them one way or the other, is it selling them, or using them when in trouble themselfs....
 
 So, avoid the problem.... don't make them at all.
 
 Not selling is just tending the wounds,
 not making is the remedy..
 
 R.
 
 edit: Drunk = not thinking about it.
 naive = thinking that if people have stuff they can sell for money... they would not sell.
 
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				February 13th, 2003, 11:24 PM
			
			
			
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	Someone was very drunk or naive when writing this.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Some1: 
 quote:Re: anti personel mines. How Can anyone defend the production of a weapon that maims 22000 civilians every year?? (and I sure that number includes a ton of children) Sure the problem may be not cleaning them up but frankly I think the world could avoid a lot of problems if those selling weapons cared a little more about how and who would be using them.
 
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	How can anyone support production of a device that kills 50,000 civilians every year (and maims many more) in the United States alone?Quote: 
	
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 Re: anti personel mines.  How Can anyone defend the production of a weapon that maims 22000 civilians every year??
 
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 Or is it only bad if it's a weapon that maims people, while objects that you might find useful are okay, even if people die or are maimed by them?
 
 Where exactly did you get from my post that I "support production of a device that kills 50,000 civilians every year"???
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				 Re: [OT] Cr*ppy Belgium 
 i apologize for my bad choice of words...     
I don't want to trigger a discussion about my post..
 
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	How can anyone support production of a device that kills 50,000 civilians every year (and maims many more) in the United States alone?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by DavidG: 
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 Re: anti personel mines.  How Can anyone defend the production of a weapon that maims 22000 civilians every year??
 
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 Or is it only bad if it's a weapon that maims people, while objects that you might find useful are okay, even if people die or are maimed by them?
 
 Where exactly did you get from my post that I "support production of a device that kills 50,000 civilians every year"???
 A guess. So I was wrong and you do have objections to the manufacture of automobiles? My sincere apologies.
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	Oh, I think the word naive covers quite a few assumptions.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Some1: "I think the world could avoid a lot of problems if those selling weapons cared a little more about how and who would be using them."
 
 Why make them at all??? US(and ofcourse other countries) should stop make these things. Anyone who owns stuff they can't use can thrown it away. If countries have them, they WILL use them one way or the other, is it selling them, or using them when in trouble themselfs....
 
 So, avoid the problem.... don't make them at all.
 
 Not selling is just tending the wounds,
 not making is the remedy..
 
 edit: Drunk = not thinking about it.
 naive = thinking that if people have stuff they can sell for money... they would not sell.
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				 Re: [OT] Cr*ppy Belgium 
 Let’s see how much you guys really know.  Which 10 countries export the most arms?  Not so quick, Aircraft sales are not to be counted, and costal patrol ships don’t count either.  They are very big ticket items, and tend to distort the big picture.
 Next, who are the five largest exporters of ballistic missiles?
 
 Then let’s ask who are the five largest exporters of anti shipping missiles?
 
 And just for fun, who manufactured the majority of the land mines that are responsible for the death toll in Asia?  Bosnia?
 
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