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January 31st, 2001, 03:16 PM
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Re: Atmosphere
Woodelf, yes the time for atmospheric conVersion is the same reguardless of planet size. Its just that your "return on investment" is lower with smaller planets. I personally don't convert any planet other than huge and large.
As to the theory that Gas Giants have a diamond core, I'm having a hard time understanding that. If that was the case, wouldn't the earth's core also be diamond? IIRC, the earth has an iron core 'cause iron has a specific gravity (I think that's the term) greater than carbon. Its not as if we have no carbon on this planet. If that's the case, wouldn't the core (of any celestial body) be made up of the "heaviest" element in the planet makeup? Isn't that why a rock sinks and hydrogen gas floats upward? I'm definitely not a chemistry expert but my common sense leads me to believe that's the way it should be.
I know this thread is going off target and probably should be elsewhere, but I definitely am curious as to the answer...
EDIT: Oops, sorry raynor. Didn't mean to "double post" your answer. We seem to be on at the same time a lot lately...
[This message has been edited by rdouglass (edited 31 January 2001).]
[This message has been edited by rdouglass (edited 31 January 2001).]
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January 31st, 2001, 03:19 PM
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Re: Atmosphere
As long as everyone is in a frenzy over realism, I say that gas giant troops should get a 1000% bonus when attacking non-gas giant troops. Because the gravity on a gas giant has to be at least 10x that on the other worlds, they should be able to kick butt against their wimpier 1 standard G colonists/troops.
(Never mind that troops are more like cargo items stored in the planet that have nothing to do with colonists and are therefore atmosphere non-specific...)
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January 31st, 2001, 03:21 PM
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Re: Atmosphere
'Tis Okay, RDouglas--just so long as you agree with me.
Large and Huge... Whoop! Great minds think alike. 
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January 31st, 2001, 03:25 PM
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Re: Atmosphere
Raynor, I'm not sure about that. Yes, G Giants have a much greater gravity hence the species should be vastly stronger. Yet all the "troop" pictures seem to be "mechanized" and inside vehicles. That, in theory, should negate any advantage. If troops were set up like SE3 where they had infantry, then yes, I agree. However, I have seen no infantry in SE4. Of course, they may very well be ther and I haven't seen them - I rarely ever invade planets, I take 'em with Puppet Political Parties..
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January 31st, 2001, 03:56 PM
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Re: Atmosphere
quote: Originally posted by Puke:
<snip!> man, i hate it when they release Version 2.0 of the universe just because sales on the first edition were dropping off, and all your knowledge goes out of date.
ROFLMAO  Good one Puke. 
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January 31st, 2001, 07:40 PM
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Re: Atmosphere
quote: Originally posted by raynor:
[b]As long as everyone is in a frenzy over realism, I say that gas giant troops should get a 1000% bonus when attacking non-gas giant troops. Because the gravity on a gas giant has to be at least 10x that on the other worlds, they should be able to kick butt against their wimpier 1 standard G colonists/troops.
Actually, Jupiter's surface gravity is about 2.5 G's due to its high density. Saturn, Neptune and Uranus, OTOH, are between 0.9 and 1.2 G's or about Earth normal. The high G worlds would be huge rock and ice planets not gas giants.
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January 31st, 2001, 08:20 PM
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Re: Atmosphere
Um, where did you get that 'surface gravity' information? I hope you realize that gravity is a function of mass, not density. There also is absolutely no scientific information about the 'surfaces' of any gas giants, just theories.
Also, to whomever made the comment about liquid being denser than solid, you are incorrect. Some solids, based on their freezing processes are less dense than their liquid counterparts (like water). But for most elements and compounds, solid is the densest state.
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