Ringworld PDB

BKrani · #1 January 31st, 2001, 04:01 AM

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Originally posted by Instar:
Well, in SEIII, you could give facilities certain components. If you made a component that made huge *** bLasts with a laser, then you could add that to the facility and that would be that.

We might be able to create the appropriate component (doing a suitably extraordinary amount of damage with a slow reload time) and set the tonnage to something like 30,000. In conjunction with that, we could also create an appropriate Weapons Platform large enough to hold the component.

The attempt would be to create a WP that can only be built on a site with RW size storage capacity (32,000 - 64,000 cargo).

Strictly speaking, the facilities we're talking about should be classed as a Stellar Manipulation option that, when activated, can be used to destroy 1 fleet anywhere in the system containing the RW. I would not imagine it to be a combat type option. It would fit in nicely - somewhere in between the fast paced destruction of ship-to-ship combat and the elimination of all ships in the system when detonating a star. We are after all, referring to a very controlled, limited detonation of the star photosphere...

Cheers.

Puke · #2 January 31st, 2001, 04:26 AM

i dont think you can destroy individual fleets from the main game window, without being in combat, and without being in the same sector. cool idea for se5 though.

as for facility weapons, how about if you just made a weapon platform the same size as a 'cargo facility' or had one for each level of cargo facility. your could build them normally, or add them to the facil. then you could give them special mounts or something. extend range, increase damage, and whatnot. lots and lots of whatnot.

BKrani · #3 January 31st, 2001, 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by Puke:
i dont think you can destroy individual fleets from the main game window, without being in combat, and without being in the same sector. cool idea for se5 though..

Not with the current game engine certainly. I was thinking more of a plea to MM for an additional game feature in future releases.

quote:
as for facility weapons, how about if you just made a weapon platform the same size as a 'cargo facility' <snip>

Not quite sure what's you're aiming at here (I've just gotten back form the gym so my comprehension is a little fuzzy!!). The attempt of my previous post was to suggest a WP that was SO large that it could ONLY be built on a RW sized site. Unfortunately, you could probably get around that by building a ****-load of Cargo facilities. Still - If you wanted to devote the entire planetary surface to building the infrastructure needed to support such a weapon - Good luck to you.

My thoughts on Planetary Defence Bases having extended ranges and power came from one of Fredrick Saberhagen's Beserker series. In the particular story, they were trying to lure a Beserker within range of a particular planet so that they could use the vastly superior firepower available, not destroy it the ship, but to swiftly cut the 'brain' free from the ship before it could self-destruct. Thus 'capturing' a working beserker brain for study. the idea was that planetary defence bases (WPs) are more powerfull but the enemy has to come to you first.

Cheers.

[This message has been edited by BKrani (edited 31 January 2001).]

Puke · #4 January 31st, 2001, 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by BKrani:
Not quite sure what's you're aiming at here

I thought someone else was asking about having facility sized planetary weapons, and I thought that was a good way to do it. (bigger WP and custom mount) sorry, might have been off topic.

E. Albright · #5 January 31st, 2001, 06:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BKrani:
We might be able to create the appropriate component (doing a suitably extraordinary amount of damage with a slow reload time) and set the tonnage to something like 30,000. In conjunction with that, we could also create an appropriate Weapons Platform large enough to hold the component.

The attempt would be to create a WP that can only be built on a site with RW size storage capacity (32,000 - 64,000 cargo).

Problem: if you took a Small planet and slapped 10 Storage Facility IIIs onto it, it'd suddenly have 30kt+ storage, and could thus get the Mega Kill-o-Zap Stellar Laser Thingy...

BKrani · #6 February 1st, 2001, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by ealbright:
Problem: if you took a Small planet and slapped 10 Storage Facility IIIs onto it, it'd suddenly have 30kt+ storage, and could thus get the Mega Kill-o-Zap Stellar Laser Thingy...

True. That's what I meant by dedicating the entire planetary surface to the construction of one weapon system. I mean, you could, but then the planet would be about useless for anything else. It would be one hell of a planet to crack, but why would you bother. It's only got the one thing on it. One huge mother of a gas laser.

However, the idea is probably open to abuse, I'd agree.

Cheers.

Puke · #7 February 1st, 2001, 01:04 AM

man, what we really need to do is make the huge weapon that takes up an entire world and can bLast things from sectors away, then put a warp point generator in front of it to let it destroy things all over the quadrant. make the star-destroying-cannon and detonate solar systems from remote.

oh yeah, its the cheese.