OT: Alien Contact

Aloofi · #1 February 27th, 2003, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:
[Give me 1 example.

From the new testament: "There will not remain any stone of this temple"

Last time i check the Western Wall (wailing wall) was still there.

Ragnarok · #2 February 27th, 2003, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Umm... no. There are tons of things the Bible says happened and will happen that did not ever happen.

Give me 1 example.
Give me examples of supposedly accurate predictions the Bible made. You made the claim that it has made accurate predictions, yet you have not defended that at all. The burden of proof currently rests on you.

(I edited the Last post, so you may have missed the edit, by the way.)

Yup, I missed the edit.
And I don't just "blindly" accept what the Bible says. I didn't just read the Bible and say, "hey, this sounds good, I'm going to believe this." I had to prove to myself that what I was reading was correct. I did, and still do, much study and research in order to continue proving to myself that what I believe is in fact the truth.

I can give you lots of examples.
Just to list a couple:
When man believe that the world was flat, the Bible clearly stated it was round. (Not a issue of prediction but showing how if man would have looked into the Bible before thinking the world was flat, they would've realized it wasn't.)

It was foretold that Jerusalem would be destroyed in one night by the Babylon army, those that survived would be carried off into exile for 70 years and then return to their homeland to restore their city. This in fact did happen.

It was foretold that the Messiah (Jesus) would come through the line of David. If you look at Jesus' liniage you will find that he did indeed come through the line of David.

These are but a few examples to back up what I'm saying. I shift the burden of proof over to you.

Aloofi, I am very much aware of "Post-dition" and "pre-diction," and the Bible is not a book of post-diction. It was written well over 2000 years ago and has not been changed one bit.

Ragnarok · #3 February 27th, 2003, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Aloofi:

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:
[Give me 1 example.

From the new testament: "There will not remain any stone of this temple"

Last time i check the Western Wall (wailing wall) was still there.

If you study that verse a bit more, you'll come to see that you are taking that verse a bit too literally.
You will also see that the meaning of the verse indicates that the city will be completely and utterly destroyed.

[ February 26, 2003, 22:09: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

Aloofi · #4 February 27th, 2003, 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Aloofi, I am very much aware of "Post-dition" and "pre-diction," and the Bible is not a book of post-diction. It was written well over 2000 years ago and has not been changed one bit.

Nah, that guy didn't come from King David, since genealogy back them was kept only through males and if he is not the son of a man.......

None of the "predictions" of the new testament have ever ocurred. Not even one.

Ragnarok · #5 February 27th, 2003, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by Aloofi:

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Aloofi, I am very much aware of "Post-dition" and "pre-diction," and the Bible is not a book of post-diction. It was written well over 2000 years ago and has not been changed one bit.

Nah, that guy didn't come from King David, since genealogy back them was kept only through males and if he is not the son of a man.......

None of the "predictions" of the new testament have ever ocurred. Not even one.

You are correct in saying he is not the son of man. God put the embryo(sp?) into his mother Mary. His adoptive father (Joseph) was through the line of David. Thus, he could be said to have come thorugh the line of King David.

Ragnarok · #6 February 27th, 2003, 12:18 AM

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None of the "predictions" of the new testament have ever ocurred. Not even one.

By your saying that, is basically saying that proven secular history did not even happen. The fall of Babylon for example.

Aloofi · #7 February 27th, 2003, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:
[]If you study that verse a bit more, you'll come to see that you are taking that verse a bit too literally.
You will also see that the meaning of the verse indicates that the city will be completely and utterly destroyed.

If you don't take thing literaly then anything can mean anything.
For example, did you know that the New Testament quotes from the Book of Enoch, a book known to have been written centuries after the events it describes and that is not part of the Old Testament as if it were part of it?.
Check the letter of John if you don't believe me.