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Old March 5th, 2003, 02:00 AM
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May be you droping too many troops ? Summary damage rating may be too high and cause RCE.
number of troops <200 RCE?
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May be you droping too many troops ? Summary damage rating may be too high and cause RCE.
number of troops <200 RCE?
Should not be. next time you have this problem, keep save game file, may be we'll figure out what' the problem.
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Send the "Game" file or what one..there are 3 with the name of the game just different endings I will give it a go when I get home again
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1046822290.zip

Link to game file, in F'rhircch system attack planet #1 give it a go

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Thanks for uploading the game, Mottlee. It's really interesting to see it in progress after 650-some turns! You have some wicked ship designs!

Looks like the AI is breaking down in a couple of ways. One unrelated one is it seems not to be developing very well. I haven't tried to figure out why yet.

I think I see what is causing the DBZ error. The AI defending the planet has a bunch on infantry there... with no equipment. Empty infantry units. I don't know why the AI is doing this, but it is, and that, I think, must be causing the error.

Solutions, then, for the short term, would be to have some human player go run a turn for all the AI, jettison any empty infantry, and maybe set them straight on some other stuff if you want, especially giving them an inf design that uses weapons.

However I guess they may go back to building more. Does anyone (oleg, John?) have time to use this file and try to figure out why the AI is doing this, and come up with a fix?

It'd be good to email MM too to let them know it crashes if there are troops with no components. I can probably make it so Proportions won't allow troops without components, but the AI has a way of ignoring design limits. Might work, though.

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However I guess they may go back to building more. Does anyone (oleg, John?) have time to use this file and try to figure out why the AI is doing this, and come up with a fix?

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I did see this problem but could not figure out whats exactly the problem. My guess it is the intermix of "family numbers" between infantry weapon and some other components - AI is trying to put illegal components and create empty infantry. Will have to go through components.txt file.
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Thanks for uploading the game, Mottlee. It's really interesting to see it in progress after 650-some turns! You have some wicked ship designs!

Looks like the AI is breaking down in a couple of ways. One unrelated one is it seems not to be developing very well. I haven't tried to figure out why yet.

I think I see what is causing the DBZ error. The AI defending the planet has a bunch on infantry there... with no equipment. Empty infantry units. I don't know why the AI is doing this, but it is, and that, I think, must be causing the error.

Solutions, then, for the short term, would be to have some human player go run a turn for all the AI, jettison any empty infantry, and maybe set them straight on some other stuff if you want, especially giving them an inf design that uses weapons.

However I guess they may go back to building more. Does anyone (oleg, John?) have time to use this file and try to figure out why the AI is doing this, and come up with a fix?

It'd be good to email MM too to let them know it crashes if there are troops with no components. I can probably make it so Proportions won't allow troops without components, but the AI has a way of ignoring design limits. Might work, though.

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Thanks guys, I have tried to "Kill" off the troops on the planet with the same problem and I think I did have it 1X when not Inf was on planet (I think)

Thanks again and for the great mod
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