PBW - Newbie Galactic Combat II Crisis Forum.

[CaptRR]

Ok, now I understand what is happening, I must have missed the original explanation.

It sounds like the same guy, then again, it could be 7 friends. To be honest though, I think we could take them. Rutha, you and I have been in an alliance, and we always knew that a conflict with the CCCP was coming, some day, thats one of the reasons we were trying to court Greaybeard into the alliance, and also why we have been trying to take on the Terrens, while the CCCP is powerful, I think the Central Powers is just as good, even if we don't quite have the membership they do, however now that many people know whats going on, I'm sure that the Central Powers will be getting many more Allies . At least tempararally.

I say continue the game as it stands, and together with other players we can drive though the CCCP like a hot knife through butter. Imagine possibilities of a war that big.

Besides I need story material!!!

[Alex Reaper]

How I think game must be save. Hwo want to play -must play hwo not - must withdraw from game.
In this situation Game must be in fully avtomation turns.
If this game will delete that means your alliance to lose.
If not play and win to stronge.

[Ruatha]

CaptRR.
I've thought about that.
For me, I could continue just to get story material.
But for the Geckos and the Zax it would be hard. They are pinned down surroudned by the enemy alliance.
The Argons are constantly being hit by 10+ intel attacks per turn, some ships lost every turn to crew conVersion. I calculated some turns ago that his enemies had approximately 1 million intel points per turn, most of which goes into intel attacks against him.

I do belive that we might have a very small chance of winning against them, but as Tbontob says, that would be condoning this kind of behaviour.
And I don't think we can get the kind of cooperation that they have developed.

As to them being friends? I've asked them and they deny knowledge of eachothers.
One option is to continue the game as small multiplayer (1-3 players) for the stories.

I'm sorry. But I just don't see the game surviving.
If you wish you can take over as host and then I'll continue as long as you do. But I can't accept the responsibility of allowing this situation to continue as present. I can as I said continue so that all effort you have put into the stories wont be lost.

Another option is to continue writing the stories freely from the game, spinning from the interaction between our stories.
If for example one of us writes of deafeat the other must follow that.
The CP might even go to war against the Zax in the future if the Zax wins against the FMA. Then we will have two sides of a war.
Or the CP might split up!

From what we've written I think that this would be a viable option.
I found it hard initially to cancel the game but then I've had a week to ponder the issue.

Now in retroperspective I see alot of settings that should have been different in this game and that will be changed in a next Galactic combat.
(No gifts or tech trade, no surrendering, show only own points, max alliance 2 players, 0 starting race points, win condition, player 1 300% more than player 2, huge universe, high tech cost)

[ March 16, 2003, 05:51: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
As to them being friends? I've asked them and they deny knowledge of eachothers.

Ruatha, I can be naive at times, but I just don't buy their not knowing each other.

They don't know each other and seven players are from the same two sister cities?

What are the odds of that?

While not impossible, the odds of that happening by chance are very close to it.

So what are they hiding? If they will not explain what has happened, I can only conclude they are lying. And if they are lying, then why are they lying?

Worse case scenario. One player is playing seven races.

But it doesn't have to be seven. It need only be two.

One player playing 2 races (however disguised) is illegal.

For me, the game is hopelessly contaminated.

[Ruatha]

Hi Tbontob.
I essentially agree with you that the game is dead.
It's just hard letting go of the first game I've hosted, the first game where I've written an in-game story and the second game I've entered into in PBW.

I'll hear whith CaptRR first before I'll do anything else.

[Ruatha]

CaptRR. You and I could continue against the AI to get story material?

[Martuk]

Well, it was fun. That was my first PBW game, but I must state that I want to play again ... But not with that suspicious situation. I know that we may ally ourselves against the CCCPs, and we may win, but ... I like diplomacy relations, not the war, war is necessary for the game but I think that the great thing of playing against other humans is to negotiate with them, without that, the game loses a whole dimension, and war is the only thing that is left in the game. I will play another game if it is hosted for you, Ruatha, you have been a great host and I like the idea of a inner game story, so warn me if you start another one like this.

Greetings from Barcelona to everyone