OT: computers

Ruatha · #1 April 1st, 2003, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by rextorres:

A good place start to get information is

http://www.tomshardware.com

Yep, Tom's is great.
You can also check Anandtech at http://www.anandtech.com/

p.s. Has anyone checked out the Sprint plus yet? it's NOT an april fools day joke! d.s.

Wardad · #2 April 1st, 2003, 11:14 PM

PC Club has good PCs and hardware.

They usually use the best stuff.

checkout their WEB site...

The real question is 3D or not to 3D.

If your not playing demanding 3D games then you can save a couple of hundred dollars and go with a lightweight processor (RONs - DuRON or CeleRON)and the (motherBoards) intergrated graphics, and regular speed RAM.

If you will be playing recent 3D games then you want a heavy weight processor (Athalon or Pentium) and a recent 3D graphics card, and the Dual Data Rate (DDR) RAM.

Gryphin · #3 April 2nd, 2003, 01:30 AM

I have to Agree with Iorn Giant
I have been shopping at www.pcsforeveryone.com
for at least 5 years. Take a look at their Shuttle pc. www.shuttle.com
I just bought one for Pooh Star. It is about 6 x 7 x 12 inches. Not much room for expansion but for non graphics intensive work it is superb.

If not, then I feel DELL is a good buy.

Fyron · #4 April 2nd, 2003, 01:57 AM

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That is not the issue we are talking about, that is a cooling issue that you need to adapt to the individual processor.
An intel processor has different fan mounts than an AMD.
What we are talking about is prestanda. Ofcourse you have to adapt the cooling to the heat, that is obvious. There are millions of AMD processors running perfectly!

The issue I was talking about is very relevant to building your own PC, which we were indeed talking about.

I never said anything even remotely related to AMDs not being able to work. Nothing in my post even comes close to such a statement.

Ruatha · #5 April 2nd, 2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

quote:
That is not the issue we are talking about, that is a cooling issue that you need to adapt to the individual processor.
An intel processor has different fan mounts than an AMD.
What we are talking about is prestanda. Ofcourse you have to adapt the cooling to the heat, that is obvious. There are millions of AMD processors running perfectly!

The issue I was talking about is very relevant to building your own PC, which we were indeed talking about.

I never said anything even remotely related to AMDs not being able to work. Nothing in my post even comes close to such a statement.

Then you should also mention that it aswell draw more power and so costs more in the long run.
And the issue about thermal safety features built into the processors.
And ofcourse the difference in the chipsets (a real issue), what about rambus memory? Colour of the chips? status? etc etc.

When someone asks what processor should I get they usually means wich processor gives me best prestanda.
The one starting this thread talked about brand computers and weren't specifically talking about putting his own computer together, quite the opposite. All brand computers come equipped with ample cooling devices.
You've got to differ between what is an issue and what is showing off.

Fyron, try someting new:
Don't get the Last post in an argument/discussion! Anxiety?

(Sorry if I'm ranting but its 02.30 in the night, I'm tired and aren't allowed to go to sleep, work related)

[ April 02, 2003, 00:27: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

Dawn Falcon · #6 April 2nd, 2003, 03:23 AM

AMD have a very good and detailed guide to installing Athlon processors downloadable from their website. VERY good.

Basically, read that and make sure you get an approved fan. Get a nForce 2 or KT-333 or KT-400 chipset motherboard. Make sure you have a 350+ Watt PSU.

That solves the AMD "problem".

If you're going branded, can't really help unless you're a UKer. The companies I'd recomend are all UK-only

[ April 02, 2003, 01:25: Message edited by: Dawn Falcon ]

Thermodyne · #7 April 2nd, 2003, 03:30 AM

Based on the first post, I think he needs a boxed computer. This means he should buy the
fasted Dell that he can afford. He was an OC�er, he would not have made the post. Building
your own, results in more speed for buck spent. But can be a problem for someone that is not
up to speed on trouble shooting problems.