| 
 | 
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
    
 | 
       | 
      
 
 
	
		  | 
	
	 | 
 
 
		
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 20th, 2003, 11:54 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				First Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2001 
					Location: NJ 
					
					
						Posts: 738
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Tournament Concept - Invulnerable Challenge 
Please take a look at this... and let me know if it sounds interesting, or if there may be any barriers I may have overlooked in implementing it.
 
OVERVIEW 
The Invulnerable challenge is open to any seasoned SEIV player looking for some abuse.  Each player in the tournament will get one crack at winning a one-on-one match against a very tough AI opponent.  The catch is that I will be playing the AI opponent for 100 turns or so, building up the toughest defense possible in their home system, before the game even starts.  The tournament winner will be the player who captures or defeats the AI homeworld in the fewest amount of turns... if you live at all.         
MAP 
Will be the same for all players.  Small quadrant.  AI will have one warp point in their home system. (I'm contemplating disabling warp technology to force plaers to fight through the warp point.  Not sure, though). 
EMPIRE SETUP 
All players will use the same empire file, to even the challenge, and facilitate game setup.  At 100 turns, copies of the game files will be created for all tournament players so they have the exact same conditions at start.  The player's 5000 point empire will be strong; a berserker race with +25 agressiveness/defensiveness, plus some special racial techs, to be determined.  You'll need it. 
PBW 
The game file copies will be used to setup an individual game for each participant in the tourney. 
COMPUTER / AI SETUP 
You can bet I will be stringing together the toughest defensive I can think of using a 5000 point race.  Suggestions are welcome via forum Messages.  If you help with the defensive setup, you can't participate in the tourney. 
STARTING TECH 
High 
COMPUTER BONUS 
High 
COMPUTER DIFFICULTY 
High
 
What do you think?  I'd like to try this in the summer.
     
 
 [ July 06, 2003, 05:02: Message edited by: Stone Mill ] 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
            
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 12:09 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Mar 2002 
					Location: Indiana 
					
					
						Posts: 3,229
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Hmm, I like this idea alot. It should prove to be very tough to take out an empire 100 turns more advanced then you are. You can count me in if you do it.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Ragnarok -  Hevordian Story Thread
------------------- 
I think...therefore I am confused. 
They were armed. With guns, said Omari.  
Canadians. With guns. And a warship. What is this world coming to? 
The dreaded derelict dwelling two ton devil bunny! 
Every ship can be a minesweeper... Once
			  
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 07:41 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Shrapnel Fanatic 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Mar 2003 
					Location: CHEESE! 
					
					
						Posts: 10,009
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 7 Times in 1 Post
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		by 100 i have all three colony techs and am working on the weapons and sheilds. and i'm hardly a micromanager. so since i don't have gold, that puts me in the suggestions? if it's gold, i got a few. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				If I only could remember half the things I'd forgot, that would be a lot of stuff, I think - I don't know; I forgot!  
A* E* Se! Gd! $-- C-^- Ai** M-- S? Ss---- RA Pw? Fq Bb++@ Tcp? L++++ 
  Some of my webcomics. I've got 400+ webcomics at Last count, some dead. 
Sig updated to remove non-working links.
			  
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 08:23 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Shrapnel Fanatic 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Jul 2001 
					Location: Southern CA, USA 
					
					
						Posts: 18,394
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 08:30 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Shrapnel Fanatic 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Mar 2003 
					Location: CHEESE! 
					
					
						Posts: 10,009
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 7 Times in 1 Post
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		missed that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				If I only could remember half the things I'd forgot, that would be a lot of stuff, I think - I don't know; I forgot!  
A* E* Se! Gd! $-- C-^- Ai** M-- S? Ss---- RA Pw? Fq Bb++@ Tcp? L++++ 
  Some of my webcomics. I've got 400+ webcomics at Last count, some dead. 
Sig updated to remove non-working links.
			  
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 02:00 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Major 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Jan 2003 
					Location: Oslo, Norway 
					
					
						Posts: 1,030
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Cool, I’m in. 
So what’s the price ? A title and a belt (David Gervais      ) would be nice      
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Never trust a cop with rubber gloves.
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 05:31 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				First Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2001 
					Location: NJ 
					
					
						Posts: 738
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				 Originally Posted by Ragnarok 
 Hmm, I like this idea alot. It should prove to be very tough to take out an empire 100 turns more advanced then you are. You can count me in if you do it 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Cool, thanks… 
 
 
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				 Originally Posted by narf poit chez BOOM  
 so since i don't have gold, that puts me in the suggestions? if it's gold, i got a few 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 It’s Gold.  I’d be happy to hear your ideas on how to set up the defense. 
 
 
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				 Originally Posted by Imperator Fyron  
 STARTING TECH 
High. 
 
That's no fun 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 The object for this game is to allow players all available tech to come up with their best invasion force as quickly as possible.  Research is beyond the scope of this game.  The AI will have max tech as well so I can set up what I believe to be an ‘impossible’ defensive network. 
 
 
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				 Originally Posted by tecso 
 i am in. Race against the clock should be good. 
 
I am guessing your going to place the game in stone at turn 100 and away we go... 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Cool.  I think I can get what I want by turn 100.  It’s going to be a b*tch to defeat.     
 
 
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				 Originally Posted by primitive 
 Cool, I’m in. 
So what’s the price ? A title and a belt (David Gervais) would be nice 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 That is an excellent proposal.  I think I’ll ask David to develop an Icon for the winner’s signature. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
            
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 07:19 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Major 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Nov 2000 
					Location: Biddeford, ME, USA 
					
					
						Posts: 1,007
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I'd be interested as long as I'm not competing against anyone that helped setup the AI's defense.  That would definitely give those players an advantage.  IMO anyone entering the tournament should have no knowledge whatsoever about the AI opponent except that they have a 100 turn head start... 
 
$.02> 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 09:53 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Corporal 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Dec 2002 
					
					
					
						Posts: 132
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Just curious, is this going to be using custom AI files or a well known AI?  I think custom could be a lot harder. 
Also, make sure you can't trade star maps with the AI for its home planet     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 21st, 2003, 10:02 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Shrapnel Fanatic 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Mar 2003 
					Location: CHEESE! 
					
					
						Posts: 10,009
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 7 Times in 1 Post
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Tournament - Invulnerable Challenge
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		well, with one warppoint the obvious thing to do is dump mines, sats, bases, ships and the kitchen sink on the warppoint.      we need some way to keep the players from reading the suggestions.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				If I only could remember half the things I'd forgot, that would be a lot of stuff, I think - I don't know; I forgot!  
A* E* Se! Gd! $-- C-^- Ai** M-- S? Ss---- RA Pw? Fq Bb++@ Tcp? L++++ 
  Some of my webcomics. I've got 400+ webcomics at Last count, some dead. 
Sig updated to remove non-working links.
			  
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
 
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
	| Thread Tools | 
	
 
	| 
	
	
	
	 | 
	
 
	| Display Modes | 
	
 
	
	
	
	
		  Linear Mode 
		
		
	 
	
	 | 
	
	
 
 
	
		
	
		 
		Posting Rules
	 | 
 
	
		
		You may not post new threads 
		You may not post replies 
		You may not post attachments 
		You may not edit your posts 
		 
		
		
		
		
		HTML code is On 
		 
		
	  | 
 
 
	 | 
	
		
	 | 
 
 
     |  
 |