OT : Australian intervention in Solomon Islands

Loser · #1 July 9th, 2003, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
don't encourage movie-makers to make movies with excessive sex and violence and espeicailly ones that glorify it.

I'd have to disagree, Narf. I firmly believe that shaming sex is more of a problem than glorifying it. As long as neither party is objectified (expect for reasons related to artistic expression: Natural Born Killers, Eyes Wide Shut, Thelma and Louise, or Brazil), both parties enjoying the act should be the norm, and protection is emphasized. Being raised Puritan and having experienced just about everything 'the world' has to offer I feel openness requires an avoidance of shame, which requires sex to be as common a topic as it is an activity (and hundreds of thousands are doing it at any time)

What is 'Oz'? Why O-Z?

What is the background of this conflict in S.I.?

What has been happening down there for the Last few years?

tbontob · #2 July 9th, 2003, 04:02 PM

Loser, I agree with you about sex. Repressing it only makes it go underground where it may surface in other ways.

In a broader light...the problems may be a result of our not being willing to consider the brotherhood of man.

If we think a person or a group of people as "other", then it is a short step to the use of force.

About Oz...I was confused about it too some years ago.

Oz = Aus (Australia).

sachmo · #3 July 9th, 2003, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

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trafficking and a terrorist hide-out".

I don't care what they say, western governments love terrorism. It has provided them with a readymade, universal justification to do whatever the hell they like.

Or the first undefeatable enemy in history?

[ July 09, 2003, 15:03: Message edited by: sachmo ]

Q · #4 July 9th, 2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

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trafficking and a terrorist hide-out".

I don't care what they say, western governments love terrorism. It has provided them with a readymade, universal justification to do whatever the hell they like.

May be not all western governments (I believe I live in a country that still puts human rights first before combat against terrorism) but I must agree that some activities of the US government really frighten me more than any terrorist activities. And if deccan is right (I know too little about the political situation in that part of the world) I am worried about that too.

sachmo · #5 July 9th, 2003, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Q:
May be not all western governments (I believe I live in a country that still puts human rights first before combat against terrorism) but I must agree that some activities of the US government really frighten me more than any terrorist activities. And if deccan is right (I know too little about the political situation in that part of the world) I am worried about that too.

Well, if that's true, then it's a good thing you didn't have any relatives working in a certain New York building on a certain day in 2001.
Once something like that happens in your country, the matter becomes a lot more complicated.

oleg · #6 July 9th, 2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by sachmo:

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Originally posted by Q:
May be not all western governments (I believe I live in a country that still puts human rights first before combat against terrorism) but I must agree that some activities of the US government really frighten me more than any terrorist activities. And if deccan is right (I know too little about the political situation in that part of the world) I am worried about that too.

Well, if that's true, then it's a good thing you didn't have any relatives working in a certain New York building on a certain day in 2001.
Once something like that happens in your country, the matter becomes a lot more complicated.

So, now that gives you right to do whatever you like. You are always the GOOD guys, sure.

Loser · #7 July 9th, 2003, 07:48 PM

Whoa there limey, he kind of implied that he lost family there. And he didn't say it was right, just that it's more complicated than it may have been presented.

At least throw something in there so a reader can tell just how sarcastic or light your text might be. There's little tone or signal, after all.

[edit: the actions of our government tend to occasionally frighten us too, in fact I'll bet Plisken there has a few complaints himself, but it's ... complicated]

[ July 09, 2003, 18:53: Message edited by: Loser ]