OT - No-Call list

Mathias_Ice · #1 July 11th, 2003, 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Thermodyne:
LOL like the framers of the constitution had the need to worry about phone spam.

The right to privacy would be the issue here.

What the framers of the U.S. Constitution were worried about was limiting the size of the Federal government. Of course this fact has been all but ignored by both major political parties in the United States. As far as a right to privacy, a reading of the U.S. Constitution reveals no stated "right to privacy." This so-called right comes from Supreme Court judges deciding that Article IV of the Bill of Rights which states "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." I don't see "right to privacy" in that. But then again when you have Supreme Court judges who believe the U.S. Constitution should be discarded, insist on imposing a "seperation of church and state" (definitalty NOT in th U.S. Constitution,) and consistently ignore Article X of the Bill of Rights which states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," what do you expect?

Mathias Ice

DavidG · #2 July 11th, 2003, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by Mathias_Ice:
Don't do it!!!! Show me where in the U.S. Constitution you get to tell me I can't promote my company via calling you.

Just because something isn't Banned by the US constitution doesn't mean it's OK! Perhaps you wouldn't mind sending me your e-mail address so I can send it to all the spammers so they can 'promote their companies'

General Woundwort · #3 July 11th, 2003, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by DavidG:
Just because something isn't Banned by the US constitution doesn't mean it's OK! Perhaps you wouldn't mind sending me your e-mail address so I can send it to all the spammers so they can 'promote their companies'

He doesn't have to. It's in the BB info line, at the top of every one of his Posts. Just as "public" as, say, a phone number.

Krsqk · #4 July 11th, 2003, 01:09 AM

There's nothing to stop me from, say, going through the "G" section of the phone book and calling every number to promote my business. Telemarketers just use a more refined Version of this. You can already make your number unlisted. You can have the phone company change your number and make it unlisted. You already can order companies not to call you again, and you can take them to court if they do. Not to mention the dozens of fun ways to "out-annoy" telemarketers, such as hanging up if no one answers in the first two seconds, or answering the phone in Spanish/French/German during prime call-time (and changing Languages on them), or interrupting them and blathering on about your kidney problems... All of these are effective (they will likely get your number removed); they are free; and they don't involve government in something which private citizens are perfectly capable of doing on their own.

[edit] Another note: If I tell a telemarketer not to call me back, I also tell them that I make it a point never to purchase something over the phone. This increases the odds of their actually removing my name from their list; and if enough people do so, it will be reflected in statistical evaluations on the effectiveness of telemarketing. This is both a short-term (affecting me immediately) and a long-term (affecting the industry of telemarketing) solution.

[ July 11, 2003, 00:13: Message edited by: Krsqk ]

DavidG · #5 July 11th, 2003, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by General Woundwort:

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Originally posted by DavidG:
Just because something isn't Banned by the US constitution doesn't mean it's OK! Perhaps you wouldn't mind sending me your e-mail address so I can send it to all the spammers so they can 'promote their companies'

He doesn't have to. It's in the BB info line, at the top of every one of his Posts. Just as "public" as, say, a phone number.

Naw I was looking for that private one that he doen't make public.

DavidG · #6 July 11th, 2003, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by Krsqk:
There's nothing to stop me from, say, going through the "G" section of the phone book and calling every number to promote my business.

No but there should be.

Mathias_Ice · #7 July 11th, 2003, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by DavidG:
Just because something isn't Banned by the US constitution doesn't mean it's OK!

You are correct, see below referencing Article X of Bill of Rights. This would be a states issue. I know the state I live in has a "no call list." Of course it has the same problems that I mentioned earlier as far as needing maintenance, and Megacorps being able to buy their way off this list. Never the less, as far as Constitutionality, the state's laws are far more acceptable.

Mathias Ice