A thought on the Talisman / Live on Pay-Per-View: Geo vs. Fyron

Krsqk · #1 July 12th, 2003, 07:34 AM

What it does is take away the biggest advantage of large ships--the ability to far out-damage small ships. A BB can equal the damage of two LCs with less tonnage and lower cost. The big numbers also help 1) chew through emissive/crystalline armor effects, and 2) wear down enemy ships faster. Add the talisman, and it's even more uneven. This way, the BB would be more equivalent to the two LCs--it would probably even be 1 combat MP slower. It's almost like having a "big little" ship.

[edit]And if the weapons are the standard APB/PPB (which attenuate with range), a choice between 100% hit at max range/minimal damage and 60-70% hit at closer range/max damage/multiplied damage isn't so clear. It takes a lot of unmounted APB hits to destroy a BB.

[ July 12, 2003, 06:45: Message edited by: Krsqk ]

Q · #2 July 12th, 2003, 07:36 AM

Why not just increase the size of the talisman to 100, 200kT or whatever you feel "balanced"? Why not increse the cost of the racial trait religious? IMHO there will never be a general concensus over balance especially if it comes to racial technologies. So I believe we should use the simple solutions to balance the game as we individually like it. But we already had this discussion for the allegiance subverter.

Phoenix-D · #3 July 12th, 2003, 08:23 AM

"Because it is an unfair, unbalancing, illogical, unrealistic advantage"

Everything except unrealistic you can argue for. But when we're running around in ships that don't eat, and run the engines off the same stuff they SHOOT, I thing realism is already getting stretched a bit.

Fyron · #4 July 12th, 2003, 09:04 AM

I (and everyone else) can certainly argue about the realism.

tesco samoa · #5 July 12th, 2003, 09:14 AM

i am not real....

p.s. as a mount is a good idea....

As then it comes down to choices... Do I go for range and damage or do i go for the auto hit...

Fyron · #6 July 12th, 2003, 09:17 AM

Of course you aren't Tesco. You are just a bot made by that British supermarket chain.

Loser · #7 July 14th, 2003, 02:47 PM

I like the idea of making the Talisman make ships easier to hit. Or make the thing terribly expensive, as that will inflict cost during construction but also cost during usage.

Hell, you could make the thing make every ship in the fleet easier to hit, every ship in the system if you wanted to. It is possible to penalize the Talisman, but will that ever balance it?

And I don't think realism is worth much, other than an interesting issue to argue about.