why can't you trade specific techs?

LGM · #1 July 15th, 2003, 06:45 PM

There is a way to give a specific tech. Give them a ship with the component on it. Then when they analyze the ship at a shipyard, they can only get tech levels that are on the ship. This is not a very cost effective method of trading. You can loan them an orbital shipyard so they can analyze the ship immediately at your base. You can even build a no engine ship to accomplish this feat.

I am not sure if you can pass on tech using facilities and planets.

Arkcon · #2 July 15th, 2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by LGM:
I am not sure if you can pass on tech using facilities and planets.

I've heard that SE4 gives you a bonus to research that produces a particular facility if you capture a planet with that facility. It is just a rumor AFAIK.

But there isn't a deconstruct and analyze function for facilities.

[ July 15, 2003, 18:58: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

geoschmo · #3 July 15th, 2003, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by LGM:
There is a way to give a specific tech. Give them a ship with the component on it. Then when they analyze the ship at a shipyard, they can only get tech levels that are on the ship. This is not a very cost effective method of trading. You can loan them an orbital shipyard so they can analyze the ship immediately at your base. You can even build a no engine ship to accomplish this feat.

Yeah, I don't think this actually does what you think it does. I am pretty sure that analyzing tech acts just the same as trading it. For example if you gift a ship with a level 5 PDC on it, the player only gets one level of PDC, not level 5 in PDC. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure about that. I believe they get one level of the tech per component on the ship.

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I am not sure if you can pass on tech using facilities and planets.

You cannot.

Geoschmo

[ July 15, 2003, 19:03: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

DavidG · #4 July 15th, 2003, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by LGM:
There is a way to give a specific tech. Give them a ship with the component on it. Then when they analyze the ship at a shipyard, they can only get tech levels that are on the ship. This is not a very cost effective method of trading. .

Are you sure that works? I though it was much the same as tech trading. ie if you reasearch a ship with one DUC 5 and you only have DUC 1 you go up one level

DOH. must type faster

[ July 15, 2003, 19:03: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Fyron · #5 July 15th, 2003, 08:42 PM

You get one level for each unique component on the ship. So, you can give them a ship with one DUC IV and one DUC V, and they can get two tech levels in Projectile Weapons.

LGM · #6 July 17th, 2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by LGM:
There is a way to give a specific tech. Give them a ship with the component on it. Then when they analyze the ship at a shipyard, they can only get tech levels that are on the ship. This is not a very cost effective method of trading. You can loan them an orbital shipyard so they can analyze the ship immediately at your base. You can even build a no engine ship to accomplish this feat.

I am not sure if you can pass on tech using facilities and planets.

I was implying this as a way to limit a tech gift to a certain level that is lower than your highest level. For example, if you have level 5, but want to give level 3, you use a level 3 Version of the component. In a diplomatic trade, if you offer one level to someone who has level 4, but claims level 2, you give them level 5 instead of level 3. My solution was to limit the level given. To give multiple levels, just give the same tech multiple times in diplomacy. I know that works as I have done it many times.

PvK · #7 July 18th, 2003, 11:04 PM

Yeah, it works, as Fryon described. They won't get a higher tech than your example has.

PvK