New league forming, "The SEIV PBW League"

[Slynky]

OK on the answers, Geo. It's just that, in my line of business and considering the losers I provide service for, EVERYTHING needs to be spelled out.

Otherwise, I was referring to people who failed to report losses, or reported them in the wrong order, or reported them late (after positions had changed due to a different game)...stuff like that. I wouldn't expect a lot of it, and surely 99% of the KOTH players have be great sports! I guess I just worry. (of course, the administrator can handle those on the fly, I guess... ).

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Slynky:
What if, say, #2 on the ladder continually refuses to play (saying he's busy with too many other games or something...which could be legitimate)?

This is something I should have addressed in more detail in my previous post. Let me elaborate. Eventually this will all be codifed in teh league rules.

The Myleague was designed for games that only take a few minutes ot a couple hours to play, involving two or just a few players. Board games, computer games, etc. So some of the stuff is going to need adjusting to fit our purposes, but most of it is flexible and applicable.

One of the main considerations in the Myleague rules is that of activity. The default for Myleague is that players must play at least one game every three weeks. This would be reflected either by them reporting a loss to someone or someone reporting a loss to them.

Since most SE4 games Last more then three weeks, and we want to have a format that allows games of any number of players, following the default Myleague rules to the letter would be difficult.

The first thing that will have to change is the required activity time. I can change this in the league admin settings. Secondly by changin gthe rule from reporting a loss to only the eventual winner, to reporting a loss to all the players remaining, players will generate a lot more activity.

If you have a game with 20 players for example, every time someone gets knocked out of the game that goes as an activity for that plaeyr and every player still in that game. If players have two or three games running simultaneoulsy they should be able to keep up a decent level of activity just from players getting knocked out and reporting losses to them.

If a player is in only one game and it is a satble game or one with slow turns, they might have problems. If that is all a person can handle though they might want to consider whether a league is a good idea for them.

Geoschmo

[Stone Mill]

Could you please elaborate on how matches come together?

Is it the challenge system?

What if multiple players pose a challenge to a higher rung person at the same time?

Rank #100 has much more to gain than Rank#1... he would climb 50 ranks!

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Slynky:
OK on the answers, Geo. It's just that, in my line of business and considering the losers I provide service for, EVERYTHING needs to be spelled out.

Otherwise, I was referring to people who failed to report losses, or reported them in the wrong order, or reported them late (after positions had changed due to a different game)...stuff like that. I wouldn't expect a lot of it, and surely 99% of the KOTH players have be great sports! I guess I just worry. (of course, the administrator can handle those on the fly, I guess... ).

Yes, administrators can report losses for people that don't report them. And all that stuff will be spelled out at some point, including punishment for non-compliance. I just haven't got it all pulled together yet. I wanted to get the site up and let people register so I can get a feel for how many are going to take advantage of this. If it's just me you and Roanon maybe it won't matter.

Geoschmo

[tesco samoa]

why not have the winner report the win ???

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Stone Mill:
Could you please elaborate on how matches come together?

Is it the challenge system?

What if multiple players pose a challenge to a higher rung person at the same time?

Rank #100 has much more to gain than Rank#1... he would climb 50 ranks!

Most of the games will not require an official challange. They will simply be league games opened on PBW for people to join as they wish. Lower players have more to gain by winning, that is correct. But everyone needs to play or they start to slip down the standings due to inactivity. And reporting a loss costs you nothing in the way of ladder position unless the loss is to the player directly below you on the ladder. And then you only lose one spot.

Once the rankings are fleshed out some the challange rules will take effect for players in the top ten.

Geoschmo

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
why not have the winner report the win ???

Casue that's not how the Mylegaue system works?

Acutally it seems backwards at first, but once you dig into it you realize how smoothly the system works. By having the loser report you avoid the pimple head who joins the laegue and start reporting a bunch of wins for games that never happened. Then the admin has to run around cleaning up after them. Pimpleheads are stupid and wouldn't see a point in reporting a bunch of losses. Even if they did report a bunch of losses a pimplehead is probably going to be unranked none of their loss reports have any effect.

Geoschmo

[ August 05, 2003, 20:28: Message edited by: geoschmo ]