OT: And you thought the world was sane...

[DavidG]

Well I guess no ones about to agree with me but I think keeping a dangerous animal in a yard near where kids are playing is criminally stupid. There are numerous 'what if' scenarios where a child could get into the yard. Having a young boy "torn appart" by a dog seems like a pretty harsh penalty for a minor tresspass.
Also seems a bit harsh to call this 'survival of the fittest' Hey we are talking about a young kid here right?
I have kids comming into my yard all the time to retrieve balls. Is it annoying? Hell yes? But I think there are people who seem to think it would be OK for me to say put a board of nails at the bottom of the fence were they hop over. Perhaps I should sit on the deck with a 12 gauge and nail em when then come over??

As long as he could keep it locked up, nope.

Key word locked. Not just a closed and unlocked gate.

Who's job is it to protect the stupid?

With the number of morronic parents around someone has too.

[ August 25, 2003, 16:53: Message edited by: DavidG ]

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
City people should all get happyfluffypuppy dogs. Where the worst they do is slobber on you

Exactly kind of like this guy: DavidG's Dog

[Omnicron1]

Well I think two things-- One im only posting here cause i want a promotion and Two:

Criminally stupid is hard to define, putting nails at the bottom of the fence...only if those nails are like a part of your family a part that you fight for and that you sometimes let into the house despite their questionable hygiene. Besides which aren't the parents equally as stupid for not saying don't go into the yard with the dangerous doggy and then maybe trying something many Americans are fatally terrified of Discipline. Hate to sound like the biracial pentecostal I am but "spare the rod spoil the child" did you ever think that maybe little johnny wouldn't have to have a glass eye if you had just spanked him for trying to cross the fence in the first place instead of saying "I'm very disappointed" the moronic kid has to have a sense of right and wrong instilled into him before you can expect him to care if your dissapointed or not...sigh but alas we've come so far beyond that today we know that everyone is born good, that good is like an instinct...BS good is what you grow up with if you grow up with some smutty mother and drunk father you gonna be one of the two-humans dont have instincts we have the ability to learn hence the weak and dependent state of our young they learn by watching and how you act is how they're gonna act...and if HTML is enabled how come my text won't display red when I tell it to?

Thanks to Pheonix-D for specifying it was brackets

[ August 26, 2003, 06:08: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[Phoenix-D]

Wee! No paragraphs!

Anyway, if you want color, you need to use brackts. [ ] instead of < and >. Goes for all tags, actually.

[Tigbit]

Sorry, DavidG but it looks like you've still missed the main issue of the parent knowingly sending his child into a dangerous situation. Yes all possible precaution must be taken by owners of nasty animals but it is still the job of the parent to instill a healthy sense of self-preservation. Agreed?

[Narrew]

Originally posted by General Woundwort:

1) Unplug the idiot box.

2) Go OUTSIDE.[/QB]

My idiot box is my computer, so no, not a good idea to just unplug it, might short out something. and 2, I dont have a lap top, so I have to stay inside and no, I dont have wireless either, I guess I could drag my comp out on the porch, but the glare on the monitor pisses me off, so I keep the curtians shut, nobody knows if I am around, I am quiet, well sometimes my porn surfing will bring a supprise or 2, but thats a different thread

What started all this "I am not accountable for my actions" (in the US that is) is the fault of trial lawyers and the judges that allowed the awards. I admit that a person should have the right to sue, BUT they should pay if they LOOSE. That old lady that got burnt from a hot cup of coffee from McDonalds should never have gotten the large payout she got, should she have had her medical bills paid, yes, but MY GOD, coffee is HOT and your driving a car you dip, not smart I think and if she did something like that, some of the responsibility should be hers.

Punitive damages are outragous as it is, if a company does something wrong they should pay, but it shouldnt be a lotto.

[dogscoff]

The parent should have been punished for negligence for sending the kid into an obviously hazardous situation.

That said, I think there is something very wrong with people who raise dogs to be so savage. What exactly is going on in their troUsers that they need a barely-controllable, snarling, slobbering child-mutilation-waiting-to-happen tied up in their back yard anyway? What's wrong with a nice, friendly, sociable dog?

There used to be a guy across the road with a really vicious alsatian. He deliberately raised it to be as violent and unstable as possible. One day when I was young I came across him and he had his dog on a lead. It snarled at me and I was afraid, and the guy saw this and advanced on me until I was pinned up against a fence with him holding the dog just a few inches away from me, and by now the damn thing was in a frenzy. He held me there for ages. He thought it was funny. He moved house shortly after, never saw him again. I hope the son of a ***** got his arms chewed off.

Another uninteresting anecdote:
Also I did various delivery type jobs as a kid (paper rounds etc) and I remember there were several houses that I was afraid to go anywhere near due to aggressive dogs. Luckily in my case they were always locked up or tied up, but I was always thinking what if it jumped the fence? What if it slipped its collar? What if they forgot to close the gate? What if it bites my hand as I poke the paper through their stupid spring-loaded letterbox? I suspect now that the owners got some kind of peverse ego-boost out of scaring the crud out of little kids. I should have left their damn newspapers in the hedge.

(NOTE- despite the above, I like dogs. I just hate people who own dogs for the wrong reasons.)

[ August 26, 2003, 10:07: Message edited by: dogscoff ]