Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel

[Starhawk]

Well I have to disagree with the "self absorbed ego maniacs" as the line "I'm starbuck....deal with it" is directed at all the freaky people who B and M about starbuck being a woman like it really matters in the long run. It's a SHOW people they can change Starbuck into a six legged four eyed bug for all I care as long as the show it's self is good.
And lets face it the original female cast of BSG was nothing but a bunch of sexy whiny babies that couldn't fight their way out of a paper bad...or they could fight their way out of a paper bag but would then be crying about hurting the bag.

As to what Ron Moore said about the Cylons he's right I've watched that series a few times over now and not once did it say where the Cylons came from all you would see was an "Imperius Leader" who looked kind of like a baloon headed reptile. So when I first saw it I thought they were reptile "drones" in armor until I first saw them disasemble one of the centurions in a much later episode.
I also agree that it was one of the campiest peices of junk ever produced aside from Buck Rodgers. I mean don't even get me started on how lame it was when they found "Terra" not this one but the other one .

I am personally kind of happy that they are gonna have some kickass babes in the show for once even if they are replacing a whiney guy (boomer) and a womanizing scuzz ball who managed never to be caught ;-). And the fact is woman are now fighter pilots and soon if the law is passed they will also be combat infantry so they need to be represented in a series that takes place in a society that is centuries more advanced then us.
I was raised around girls and women that were the kickass take no crap kind of people that I just love and watching the original cry babies of BSG made me shift between laughing my butt off and getting really pissed off at times and wanting to slap these woman back into sanity. Besides ain't nothing sexier then a babe with firepower as I always say ;-).


As for the writing involved in the new BSG I do beleive it will be very good because of the parts of the story I've seen and heard. I just can't wait to get to check out the new ships and stuff. And to get to see the battle between the Colonial Fleet and the Cylons.

P.S. The Richard Hatch Version of BSG was supposed to come out in 2000 or 2002 so it must have been scrapped for some reason.

[ December 02, 2003, 19:09: Message edited by: Starhawk ]

[gregebowman]

Starhawk, I don't know how old you are or if you grew up watching American tv in the 1970's like I did, but most shows were about the man being the action hero and the women being in teh supportive role. I'm not defending it, but that's just the way it was. At least BSG had formed a female squadron when the males got sick in that one episode. I'm not "B & M" about Starbuck being a female, but after living 25 years with Dirk Benedict's face in your mind, it does take some adjustment to get used to the fact that it's going to be a female. I have no problems with females being fighter jocks or soldiers, either in tv or in real life. I was in the military, and saw several gung-ho type females, and I don't think too many of them were of the butch type. And I have to strongly disagree with your statement about BSG being campy. Maybe you're thinking about Galactic 1980, which was a big pile of dog excrement if there ever was one. Maybe it wasn't to your taste, but in the late 70's, that's about all we had to watch for sci-fi, except for Buck Rogers and Six Million Dollar Man. Now BR definitely got campy toward the end. But I can't see how you could ever call BSG campy. Maybe by today's standards it is, but nothing can be campier than Lost in Space (the series, not the movie).

[Starhawk]

I'm talking about the people who actually stood there protesting the fact that Starbuck was gonna be a woman .

And it's rather campy if you get down to those episodes where they found the non earth Terra I mean those annoying androids and the like....that was really really campy.

I do think I was thinking about 1980 when I refered to the whole series as Campy though...I mean that was just horrible and what the hell were they thinking!?!?!?!?!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

We should point out in all fairness that the first year for any series generally suck.

John Doe

i just wish the first one wasn't the Last one.

[ToddT]

I saw the "Lowdown" on BSG. Its effectively a complete rewrite.
For example: Cylon origins aside, the Cybernetic techonlogy of the Cylon machines was beyond what the 12 colonies could build and there was a couple of episodes that pointed that out, one directly: Dr Belker took a couple of them apart and could not get them working again.
Baltar is now a scientist instead of politician.( he was a member of the Council 12). I could easily go on. Like it appears they removed Athena from the story. She was Apllo's sister and I think she was a qualified pilot prior to her being stationed on the command deck.
Oh the Pegasus only took on two Baseships, Baltar was on the third, and being the coward he was ran before that battle occured.

[ December 03, 2003, 01:18: Message edited by: ToddT ]

[Atrocities]

The lowdown on BSG was a marketing ploy to get people to accept the rewrite of BSG for the SciFi channel. In a nut shell they did not do their homework on the fan base and are now trying to win as many people to the cause as possible.

I loved the part where the actors all said, "ya once I found out that the Cylons were going to be human looking I signed on." WTF! What a joke statement that was. "hey if the actors think its cool that the cylons are now human, then perhaps all the people and fan out there will accept it too." How dumb do they thing we really are? Oh wait, that question is mute, I forgot where Ronald Moore came from.

First, you weren't even alive when BSG came out you, and second, your British so what do you know about BSG. You probably said; "Battlestar Galactica? What in bloodly hell is a Battlestar Galactica"

Then once it was explained to you, the new concept that is, you said "Oh so it is like BLADRUNNER meets STAR WARS. Sure I'll do that."

I just keep telling myself its all good. Its all good.

But simply put it is a cost issue and nothing more, nothing less. Its cheeper to have humans playing the part than CGI robots or Costumed humans.

After all this is the same network that cancelled Farscape while it was still the most popular series it had. And we should not forget about what they did to Cursader and Legend of the Rangers.

"I have a very low expectation of the SciFi channel that they will have to work very hard indeed to impress me." - Unknown Sci-Fi author.

Forgive me for being direct, but I simply did not buy the whole marketing ploy from SciFi. I know a con job when I see one. I will reserve my offical opinion until after the mini-series has aired.

[ December 03, 2003, 02:10: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
Starhawk, I don't know how old you are or if you grew up watching American tv in the 1970's like I did, but most shows were about the man being the action hero and the women being in teh supportive role. I'm not defending it, but that's just the way it was. At least BSG had formed a female squadron when the males got sick in that one episode. I'm not "B & M" about Starbuck being a female, but after living 25 years with Dirk Benedict's face in your mind, it does take some adjustment to get used to the fact that it's going to be a female. I have no problems with females being fighter jocks or soldiers, either in tv or in real life. I was in the military, and saw several gung-ho type females, and I don't think too many of them were of the butch type. And I have to strongly disagree with your statement about BSG being campy. Maybe you're thinking about Galactic 1980, which was a big pile of dog excrement if there ever was one. Maybe it wasn't to your taste, but in the late 70's, that's about all we had to watch for sci-fi, except for Buck Rogers and Six Million Dollar Man. Now BR definitely got campy toward the end. But I can't see how you could ever call BSG campy. Maybe by today's standards it is, but nothing can be campier than Lost in Space (the series, not the movie).

OMG! This has got to be one of the best replies I have ever read. Thank you so very much for posting it. You are 100% correct. Job well done.