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Old October 17th, 2003, 02:57 AM

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Narf: It showed me the design in the retrofit screen, it just wouldn't let me retrofit to that design. I could see the design, and click on it - and nothing happened, or rather, it just dropped me back to the Scrap/Analyze/Mothball/Etc screen without giving me either the "Cannot retrofit" or the "Retrofit completed, new components need repair" message.

From looking at components.txt, I still do not see how the second design could have been cheaper - all of the components that I suspect were changed were either more expensive or the same as what they were replacing. Will have to restart the game and write down the design details, when I can use both of the computers needed.

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Old October 17th, 2003, 05:16 AM
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Could you afford it?
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Old October 17th, 2003, 05:16 AM
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If all the components are identical, then it won't let you retrofit...

Otherwise, it would only be an insufficient funds or the 150% value thing.
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Old October 17th, 2003, 06:04 AM
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It sounds like you are playing a simultaneous move game. In those games, you will see nothing after giving retrofit and scrap orders. You have to wait until the next turn after the orders have been processed to see the Messages in the log.
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Old October 17th, 2003, 06:17 AM
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the order should still show up in the orders list. i think. i'm tired.
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It sounds like you are playing a simultaneous move game. In those games, you will see nothing after giving retrofit and scrap orders. You have to wait until the next turn after the orders have been processed to see the Messages in the log.
Boy, is my face red!

Yes, it was a simultaneous move game. I can't believe I have not seen this before. Have I really not done any retrofitting in our multiplayer games before? I guess not.

I did not realize that retrofitting works differently in simultaneous. No message or anything, just a "Retrofit" order for the ship. I found that one of the ships (which I had not moved after attempting to retrofit) is now actually retrofitted as I wanted, while another one (which I loaded up with some satellites and sent off on a mission after the retrofit apparently failed) has now generated a log message that it could not retrofit because it has cargo in it.

D'oh!

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If all the components are identical, then it won't let you retrofit...
Hmm? I'm pretty sure I have been able to retrofit to identical designs.

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