OT: Public referrendums on destroying evil companies

Mephisto · #1 October 27th, 2003, 11:54 PM

Corporations of course have not ALL the rights of a person but they have some and they need them. Behind every corporation there are people. A corporation is nothing but a group of individuals. Each individual has certain rights and just because they act as a group you cannot take their rights away from them. If you deny the corporation adequate rights you deny the people behind the corporation these rights.

Phoenix-D · #2 October 27th, 2003, 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by PvK:
Corporations do not need, nor should they have, the same rights as humans. Growltigger, your example is non-sequitur - equal rights is not the same thing as legal existance.

Nor do humans need corporations. Corporations should only exist to do beneficial things, and when they start becoming monsters, they should be controlled.

Saying that the people who are sufficiently informed can avoid buying certain products is a ridiculous non-solution.

As I said before, I included McDonalds on the list mainly out for humor and curiosity.

PvK

Really, PvK? Because if non one buys a corps products..the corperation GOES BACKRUPT. This is gennerally considered a bad thing for them.

And please define what you mean by benifical, because using just that I know of more than a few people who would leave McDonalds and the other corps you listed alone, but close down MM, Shrapnel and quite a few others you would like to see stay in one piece.

deccan · #3 October 28th, 2003, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
And please define what you mean by benifical, because using just that I know of more than a few people who would leave McDonalds and the other corps you listed alone, but close down MM, Shrapnel and quite a few others you would like to see stay in one piece.

I have to agree with that. Reminds of that time when people were complaining that Magic: The Gathering is an evil game because it has satanic icons on some cards.

narf poit chez BOOM · #4 October 28th, 2003, 01:18 AM

someone once told me that once MS releases a new OS, they make the old ones freeware. personally, i think there's about a 1.5% chance of that being true, but i decided to ask anyway.

Fyron · #5 October 28th, 2003, 01:20 AM

It is hardly true. They still sell Win 98 and 2000.

narf poit chez BOOM · #6 October 28th, 2003, 01:24 AM

well, i'd tell the guy, if i still remembered who it was.

Baron Munchausen · #7 October 28th, 2003, 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by DavidG:
Hmmm some intersting stuff there... and also a lot of funny crap. One one of the pages it suggest McD is causing world hunger by promoting the meat culture. Like if it wasn't for McD we'd all be vegitarians and there'd be enough food for the whole world. And McD is responsible for global warming cause of all that methane cows produce. Like if McD's dissapeared tomorrow we all start eating salads.

Does it really say McDonalds is responsible for these problems? Or are you reading it in Rush Limbaugh style, pushing the claims to their most absurb extreme in order to avoid having to consider them? I think it says McDonalds contributes to these problems, actually. And they certainly do as one of the largest food companies on the planet. It's not so simple as saying that the 'free market' determines this, either. If not for McDonalds advertising vast numbers of people would eat differently. Corporations are not just passive receivers of market forces. They also create them. Just like Walmart has a measurable effect on inflation nation-wide by its push to reduce prices, McDonalds has a real effect on peoples' diets world-wide through its huge advertising campaigns.