Real World Philospohy

narf poit chez BOOM · #1 November 6th, 2003, 06:08 AM

that is why science will never solve the mysteries of the universe. but how circular is it?

suppose you think there's a river on the other sider of a mountain. now, suppose that your crippled and could never make it to the other side of the mountain. now, suppose i had been there and could tell you about the river. now, suppose i had a perfect memory,(hard) and that i never lied,(not so hard) and that you knew both those things. so, you can know about things you've never seen and can't prove. of course, the analogy's not exact. none are.

Taz-in-Space · #2 November 6th, 2003, 06:14 AM

Posted by Narf:

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suppose you think there's a river on the other sider of a mountain. now, suppose that your crippled and could never make it to the other side of the mountain. now, suppose i had been there and could tell you about the river. now, suppose i had a perfect memory,(hard) and that i never lied,(not so hard) and that you knew both those things. so, you can know about things you've never seen and can't prove. of course, the analogy's not exact. none are.

...Well you could be an evil twin (clone?) that has NO memory and so always lies!

narf poit chez BOOM · #3 November 6th, 2003, 06:19 AM

*whacks Taz with the analogy*

Fyron · #4 November 6th, 2003, 06:27 AM

And who is this alleged person with a perfect memory and that never lied? Keep in mind that "religion" started with primitive man as a means to explain everything he could not understand (which was pretty much everything around him). The concept of "God" did not come along until 100,000s of years later. Before some people in ancient Babylon began claiming that there was only one God (the Jews), everyone believed in either multiple gods or some other belief in which everything (people, animals, rocks, etc.) was spiritual (with the occasional "other"). Of course, there were probably some minor pockets of monotheism before Judaism came along, but that is the one that got the whole notion of one God going strong (after quite some time, mind you).

Fyron · #5 November 6th, 2003, 06:29 AM

And about that science bit... more mysteries of the universe are solved with each passing decade. It is only a matter of time. Could be many 1000s of years before we can find a practical way to get to other places than Sol (assuming that is even possible), but it will eventually be done.

narf poit chez BOOM · #6 November 6th, 2003, 06:37 AM

science has a lot of guesswork, scientists are priests. you speculate on the the nature of the microwave background, when as far as i know, we still havn't >taken a sample from another planet in our own solar system.<

getting answer's from a diety has no holes in it.

[ November 06, 2003, 04:38: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Taz-in-Space · #7 November 6th, 2003, 06:48 AM

posted by Narf:

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*whacks Taz with the analogy*

Oww! That hurts!
Taz grabs the analogy - 'Bite' log 'chew'
And hits Narf with the remaining LOG!

Posted by Fyron:

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Could be many 1000s of years before we can find a practical way to get to other places than Sol (assuming that is even possible), but it will eventually be done.

Some scientists say we could visit the nearer solar neighbors NOW.
(It would just take decades, and require a MASSIVE global effort!)