Torpedo question

Atrocities · #1 November 10th, 2003, 12:21 PM

I know of reports by players who have lost huge fleets packing WMG to fleets of Torpedo ships. I wonder if formation has a lot to do with it as well?

One player has his aggressiveness and defensiveness set to 120 and his fleet trained to 20% with EMC III, Combat Sensors III, and MutiTrack III, on each of his PPB ships and still he lost his fleet to a small Torpedo based fleet. LOL. The torp player had average settings for aggressiveness and defensiveness. I wonder if the bonuses work in reverse or something.

I know that I have questioned this for a long time now. Set my mineral to 125% and throught my game all I have problems with are mining minerals.

Also movement and range weapons combined with sheild depleters play a huge role. Add in regnerators and you can bet top dollar that the fleet with the best ship design will win everytime.

[ November 10, 2003, 10:23: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Grand Lord Vito · #2 November 10th, 2003, 12:39 PM

Even though the Torpedos seem weak on paper if the Ships get the first strike they are a MASSIVE advantage?

primitive · #3 November 10th, 2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Grand Lord Vito:
Even though the Torpedos seem weak on paper if the Ships get the first strike they are a MASSIVE advantage?

Well, this definitely needs more testing. I'll try to do some this evening (unless RL pays a visit

).

[ November 10, 2003, 11:27: Message edited by: primitive ]

Fyron · #4 November 10th, 2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Grand Lord Vito:

quote:
Originally posted by primitive:
Even without a possible “torpedo fires first” bug/feature:

Is this true? Torpedos always fire first.

No.

1FSTCAT · #5 November 10th, 2003, 04:13 PM

You guys are obviously missing the TRUE advantage of Torpedo weapons.

They make GREAT WEAPONS PLATFORMS. Why? Because they're CHEAP!

When you can't hit an enemy ship at long distance, due to bonuses, you can use a level 2 or 3 torpedo, and score hits! They take LOTS of space, but they're super cheap, so you can build 3 Massive Platforms at a time, which creates tons of KT of targets on the planet. KT that ultimately absorbs incoming fire!

For this to work really well, your platforms should be complemented with a weapon that will fire more rapidly than Torp.

--Ed

Atrocities · #6 November 10th, 2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

quote:
Originally posted by Grand Lord Vito:

quote:
Originally posted by primitive:
Even without a possible “torpedo fires first” bug/feature:

Is this true? Torpedos always fire first.
No.

Who then fires first in combat? Does the fleet with the best weapons fire first? What dictates who fires first in PBW combat?

Fyron · #7 November 10th, 2003, 04:44 PM

Whoever moves into range first gets to fire first. With same ranged weapons (such as APB VII or so and whatever level of Torpedo hits range 8 (max range of all non-missile weapons)), it is the faster ships. With same speed and range, it is a crap shoot.