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November 19th, 2003, 02:30 AM
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Re: [OT] poll on inappropriate behavior
Guys, I guess I was thinking of High School when I read the question. I imagine it does happen with men over 20 but not among those who actualy want to avoid it. The best defence is to not be where you are likely to get into that situation.
In my High School I didn't have the choise. I was the new kid in town and had to be "tested". I saw it coming as I ws getting off the bus.
He shoved
I dropped my books
Drove my fingers into his solar plexes
Threw my right leg behind his
Shoved back
Picked up my books and walked off,
(shaking in my sneakers)
The next day I climbmed the ropes to the top of the gym cealings... hand over hand, (no feet). No one ever bothered me again.
It was a Darwin thing. Ya know?
That was then, this is now, (age 49). I win by not being where I am going to get into those situations.
So using steal? Don't need it in my life and I don't know how I would react if I was inadvertantly in that situation today.
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November 19th, 2003, 02:47 AM
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Re: [OT] poll on inappropriate behavior
If somebody shoved me, I would not shove back. I would try to walk away without starting a fight.
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November 19th, 2003, 03:01 AM
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Re: [OT] poll on inappropriate behavior
Quote:
Originally posted by Loser:
Fights aren't life threatening,
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I know a few bars in the north end of town that prove this wrong.
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November 19th, 2003, 03:27 AM
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Re: [OT] poll on inappropriate behavior
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Originally posted by DavidG:
quote: Originally posted by Loser:
Fights aren't life threatening,
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I know a few bars in the north end of town that prove this wrong. We have those places around here as well. I suppose they're everywhere.
But they don't shove there. It's on or it's not.
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November 19th, 2003, 03:40 AM
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Re: [OT] poll on inappropriate behavior
Seems like the thread has drifted away from inappropriate behavior.
Of course, the "PC" and legal thing to do is to refuse to fight or shove back unless entirely necessary, and complain like mad to the authorities (teacher if in school, police if in adult public). Shoving is technically assault(tm) in the USA, and can carry some excessive penalties.
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[ November 19, 2003, 01:45: Message edited by: PvK ]
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November 19th, 2003, 06:23 AM
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Re: [OT] poll on inappropriate behavior
In my younger days I went Bar-hopping in many of the wrong places...
Of the three fights I had as an adult, in the first two I tried to reason with those idiots - and had to fight anyway.
The third and Last fight was the shortest... He grabbed and threathened me, and I reached in my pocket and used the Pepper Spray on him.
Nice thing about pepper spray is it is non-lethal but usually a fight stopper. My post-fight recovery time was also MUCH shorter... 
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November 19th, 2003, 08:41 AM
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Re: [OT] poll on inappropriate behavior
are we talking about school kids here, or drunken bar brawls? I will grant you that fighting has become less socially acceptable in recent generations, and kids these days are tending to be rather prissy in many respects (devolution at work, but lets not get started on that.)
But seriously, most people are going to posture before they fight. wither that means talking loudly, looking mean, or pushing, its all the same. People dont really WANT to fight, they just want the other guy to back down. There is an interesting website called "killology.com" that presents some well researched articles about soldiers' historical adVersion to killing each other, and how modern first world training techniques "fix" that problem.
Any way, most people dont know how to fight - and most people dont want to REALLY fight. and if were still talking about school kids, most of them dont get hurt in a fight. sure, they might be sore for a day or so afterwords, but odds are it will end up with the guys hitting each other untill they get tired.
most of the one hit knockdown stuff only happens on TV, so people have some very distorted ideas about what will happen when they get in a fight. its not like school kids are usually going to be gouging eyes and ****. But if they did, as with most things, it comes down to a matter of willpower. If you're willing to break bones and the other guy isnt, you'll win.
im not into all that antler-locking mating ritual bull**** and i dont have alot of patience for folks that like to posture. but im not going to be all macho for the folks on this forum by describing how to break someones patella. suffice to say, people would be better off we could all express our differences in a healthy way, because although I may not have been the strapping young man Gryph was -- he IS right -- darwin offers some very compelling reasons to never back down.
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