Love and Hate

primitive · #1 November 23rd, 2003, 01:08 PM

SEV is not scheduled for another 1 - 1.5 years, so there is plenty of time for SEIV first. Except for it using the Starfury engine for battles, everything is guesswork at this point.

If you like slow-paced turn-based strategy games with a lot of depth, SEIV is IMHO still the best game around (if there is something better, please tell me

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RobO · #2 November 23rd, 2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by primitive:
If you like slow-paced turn-based strategy games with a lot of depth, SEIV is IMHO still the best game around (if there is something better, please tell me )

The closest I have come to that recently is Civ3 with the Double Your Pleasure (DyP) mod. Civ3 in itself is boring (though I have been told that the Conquest expansion is very good), but DyP turns Civ3 into a very interesting experience. (I helped make DyP but that's not why I recommend it - I helped make it because it was worth the effort).

[ November 23, 2003, 11:24: Message edited by: RobO ]

primitive · #3 November 23rd, 2003, 01:48 PM

Thanks for the tip, but I'm afraid my copy of Civ3 hit the garbage can a long time ago. I won't support a company that can release such a POS by purchasing it again

Taera · #4 November 23rd, 2003, 06:40 PM

Hello RobO, and welcome to the forums - i'd just like to comment on the UI - yes, there is a horrible amount of mousework. BUT! Almost everything has a hotkey attached to it. If you learn some of those, the game will go considerably faster, and you wont use the mouse as much. And just a tip, dont compare it to SEIII - its a whole different game.

edit: Re: ministers - the ministers follow text files that guide them through building stuff. THey dont scrap facilities for newer ones, no.
If you realy like working with the ministers, forget the standard ones - find a race you like (or in full game, choose a custom? your own? race) and edit their ai construction files - so they will work the way you wanted them to.

[ November 23, 2003, 16:42: Message edited by: Taera ]

PvK · #5 November 24th, 2003, 07:23 AM

SE4 Gold is definitely worth it. I miss the good parts of SE3 too, but SE4 Gold has plenty of stuff that make it worthwhile, especially if you play against a modded AI, and/or play with humans.

As for other good turn-based conquest games - see Dominions II!

PvK

gregebowman · #6 November 24th, 2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by primitive:
Thanks for the tip, but I'm afraid my copy of Civ3 hit the garbage can a long time ago. I won't support a company that can release such a POS by purchasing it again

Besides SEIV Gold, I can't think of another game that has given me so much pleasure and loss of sleep than Civ3. I can't understand why you two are against it, it's a great game. I have both expansion discs, and although they have added some elements to the game, I could play the original game forever. But like with SEIVG, I just can't find the time to play these games as much as I'd like to.

Fyron · #7 November 24th, 2003, 05:00 PM

Play Civ 2 (plus expansions, esp. ToT) and you will understand why Civ 3 is a POS. It is a major step backwards in the genre.

[ November 24, 2003, 15:01: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]