OT: am playing D&D light and am having fun

[Taera]

touch AC - no armor bonus
flat-footed AC - no agility bonus

ranger gains the Ambidexterity and the Two Weapon Fighting feats.
Details:
When fighting with two weapons, normally players suffer a -6 penalty to hit with each. (might be wrong on the numbers)
Two-weapon fightning reduces this to -2/-4 (with the 2nd one being the off-hand, choose yourself whether he is left or right handed). Ambidexterity nullifies the penalty for the off-hand, making it -2/-2, however the other weapon must be small I THINK

[Lurker Above]

Originally posted by Loser:
Did you know they are killing off the enitre World of Darkness?

Yeah, they got tired of the complications and they're pulling the End of the World. I think God did that in the book from which Dave got my avatar.

I think that book is "Job: A comedy of Justice" by Robert. A. Heinlein. Not sure, though.

Also, some good places in the Vancouver/Greater Vancouver area to buy D&D stuff: Pastime Games in Langly (I'm not sure of the address), and i know that the Coles bookstore in Willowbrook mall has the D&D starter kit thing, as well as several rulebooks (The 3.5 core ones, Book of Vile Darkness, Book of Exhalted Deeds, and Dragonlance Campaign Setting, Last I checked). You might also want to check any massive book store, I think the chapters in Metrotown (is there still a chapters in metrotown?) had most of them. Other than that... well, let's just say a friend and I once drove around vancouver from 9 AM to 6 PM looking for gaming stores, and found nothing but Warhammer.

Also, good Groups can be hard to find. A good idea is to find a bunch of internet friends, and use AIM (yeah, yeah, AOL's horrid, but they know how to make a messenger.), since its chat room has a dice roller. A good program to help with that stuff so that you don't have to keep the stats on a UBB is DMGenie (DMgenie.com) and Player Genie. Or, you could have players e-mail your sheets to the DM, who keeps them in a word processor (and players keep everything of theirs on their computers, too), and then the DM can e-mail out experiance point rewards, treasure hauls, and the like (assuming you have a good DM (who's willing to do that), that works well. as a mediocre (at best) DM, I usually just tell the PCs their rewards in the chat. ). Try and schedual your games for a certain time each week, though. I've tried both unschedualed and schedualed, and I don't think an unschedualed game has survived more than a month.

Finally, the two weapon fighting chart (for 3.0, at least) goes:

Circumstances Primary hand/Off Hand
Normal Penalties: -6/-10
Off-hand weapon is light: -4/-8
Ambidexterity feat: -6/-6
Two weapon Fighting feat: -4/-8
Off hand weapon is light and ambidexterity feat: -4/-4
Off-hand weapon is light and two-weapon fighting feat: -2/-6
Both Feats: -4/-4
Off-hand weapon is light and both feats: -2/-2

sorry if the above is confusing (or formatted weirdly).

So, assuming your ranger is medium sized (the PHB races that are are Human, Elf, Half-Orc, Half-Elf, and Dwarf), then, with his longsword and short sword, he gets -2/-2 (short sword is light). of course, that's in addition to base attack bonus, strength bonus, etc, but your full attack bonus, as a ranger, should be +1/+1 (your strength negates the 2 weapon penalty).

...er. Hope I helped.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

thanks, Taera and Lurker. the only problem is, i don't see any ambidexterity feat in the feats list.
from the description of two-weapon fighting, it looks a little like they combined them. two-weapon now drops them both down to -4/-4 or -2/-2 if one is light. but my complaint is that not all the feats a ranger can get are in the class discription. like multi-shot at level 6, if armor is light or less. looks like Unnamed needs level to before he can put that shortsword to work, to.

well, i have internet freinds here, but nobody's said they're interested in a game...

[ December 19, 2003, 04:40: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Lurker Above]

You know, I seem to recall something about combining them when 3.5 came out. I personally prefer 3.0, mostly because I only just got used to it when they released 3.5..

At any rate, a ranger should be able to dual wield at 1st level.

The reason that not all the feats a ranger can get are in the class description is because the feats in the class description are gained just because you're a ranger. Unlike skills, class doesn't normally affect which feats you can get, (although weapon specialization is an exception), instead, the feats have prerequisites that seem to favor specific classes (like extra turning). The thing is, with prestige classes (specialized classes that have less max levels, and themselves have prerequisites), and multiclassing, for the most part, any character should be able to get any feat. (unless a character has Int 6 and the prereq is an int score so large that even if the character put his Ability score increases into Int every time he got one (every 4 levels) he'd still be too stupid to gain the feat. (although, with epic levels (beyond level 20), he'd still be able to get the feat eventually.))

Again, if that sounds confusing, it's because I'm insane.

Edit: Also, if you really want, i just started a campaign using the "play whenever everyone's on" method, and i'm teaching someone else how to play too, so if you want to play, gimme a shout, eh? (I play a bastardized combination of 3.0 and 3.5, though the ranger in my campaigns is the 3.5 one, just because the 3.0 one is horribly weak.)

[ December 19, 2003, 05:01: Message edited by: Lurker Above ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Again, if that sounds confusing, it's because I'm insane.

well, i'm not. never, have been, neveoh, i've got a lovely bunch of coconutsr will be.

well, a ranger gets multi-shot at sixth level because he's a ranger and sixth level, but it only says that in the description for multi-shot, not in the description for a ranger. i just wrote it into there.

so, your canadian, to, eh?

[ December 19, 2003, 05:05: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Lurker Above]

Hm... it should say so on the table for the ranger, under "special". Maybe.. (i'm not sure about this, remember I only have 3.0 rulebooks), doesn't the ranger get to choose whether to focus on 2 weapon fighting or bow? if that's the case, try looking under the entry for the focusing on bow, whatever it's called.

And, yeah, I'm Canadian. Vancouverite, currently stuck in surrey, though it's not as bad as the jokes would have you believe (for those who are clueless as to what I'm talking about, when you hear a Vally Girl joke in this particular part of Canada, it tends to be a Surrey Girl joke instead, mostly because the Trans-Canada highway goes right through the worst part of Surrey. (And the Fraser highway (I think) goes past a store called "Gold 'n Guns"). It's really kinda funny.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

ok, it does have them, in the paragraphs for other feats that you need to use before you get them. so i guess that's ok and i need to skim better.