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December 11th, 2003, 08:10 PM
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Re: Intelligence ops
Actually, level 1 Intelligence gives level 2 CI, not level 1. You can launch a level 1 CI project right from the beginning of the game, but as you don't have any intelligence point, it won't be useful, unless you have a good partnership. So you will need twice as many intelligence points to break through, unless of course your target has lowered Cunning to 50%. If you did plan on using Intelligence a lot, you will have 100% Cunning or better, so it breaks even then. 
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December 11th, 2003, 08:24 PM
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Re: Intelligence ops
I am aware of the levels of CI in the tech tree. That is why if you look at my numbers I didn't include a calculation for level 1 CI. It is pointless. Level 1 CI would be 120k x 1 = 120k. Worthless for a defense intel even if you could get intel points from a Partnership treaty to use.
All my numbers were for level 2 CI and level 3 CI with the x 1.2 x 2 or x 1.2 x 3 multipliers that go with them.
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December 11th, 2003, 09:56 PM
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Re: Intelligence ops
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Originally posted by Slick:
quote: Originally posted by Parasite:
one project always fails from counter intel.
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Also, he could be getting some more intel points from a partnership treaty with another empire.
Yes, good call. I am his partner , so he is getting 20% of my intel budget to use. Hmmmm, I am stopping myself. Even when I was getting 10-11 ships evey two turns, only one project would be stopped, but partnership could be adding a lot to the CI score.
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December 11th, 2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: Intelligence ops
Quote:
Originally posted by Parasite:
quote: Originally posted by Slick:
quote: Originally posted by Parasite:
one project always fails from counter intel.
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Also, he could be getting some more intel points from a partnership treaty with another empire.
Yes, good call. I am his partner , so he is getting 20% of my intel budget to use. Hmmmm, I am stopping myself. Even when I was getting 10-11 ships evey two turns, only one project would be stopped, but partnership could be adding a lot to the CI score. I'm sorry and no offense, but I found that very funny!! Mostly because I could see myself doing something like that...
You are probably cancelling out more intel points than you are receiving from the partnership since the enemy gets the 3.6:1 advantage and your empire is probably much bigger so you are contributing much more to the partnership than the enemy is. Time to break that old treaty.
Slick.
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December 11th, 2003, 11:03 PM
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Re: Intelligence ops
First day of the month. Two intel operatives walk into the Central Intelligence building.
"How's it going Bob? Get anything done Last month?"
"Pretty good Jim. We were able to convince 11 ships to join us from this one Empire. We were going for twelve though... maybe next month. How about you? Anyone good defensive actions going?"
"Not so hot. We have been working on helping our partner but Last month we only managed to stop 1 out of 12 attempts to subvery some of their ships. Oh well. Can't win em all. Cya next month Bob."
Talk about the left hand not knowing what the right is doing.

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December 12th, 2003, 05:57 PM
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Re: Intelligence ops
Dup post. Looks like I need to click into the window before I start typing.
[ December 12, 2003, 15:58: Message edited by: Parasite ]
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December 12th, 2003, 05:57 PM
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Re: Intelligence ops
Dup post
[ December 12, 2003, 15:57: Message edited by: Parasite ]
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