Rated Challenges Thread

Originally posted by Alneyan:

While speaking of settings, will the Talisman be allowed or not? Or in other words, should we assume that one of the players in each time will go for the religious Trait?

Well, if it wasn't mentioned, then default game settings apply. So, Yes.

Or are you saying you'd rather it was No?

[primitive]

Talisman or not doesn't matter to me as long as we all agree that its OK (not only legal ) to take it.

The openers however changes the whole flow of the game. I'm definitely against it.

[Slynky]

Originally posted by primitive:
Talisman or not doesn't matter to me as long as we all agree that its OK (not only legal ) to take it.

The openers however changes the whole flow of the game. I'm definitely against it.

I tend to agree with Primitive here ( ). I never ban openers in a KOTH game when there is a one-planet start (and no allies). If you have the chutzpah to research them and get them (in lieu of other things...then more power to you, I say). But in team games...it DOES just become a race.

As to the Talisman? I'm considering it right now and judging the time it takes to get it. Or am I? OK, I'm not. But Alneyan made me this way . You know, misinformation. Or is it? Heck, I don't even know now!

[Slynky]

Originally posted by Alneyan:
And as it happens, I have an old debt to repay. *Winks at Slynky*

Gee, nice to know I have TWO people with a grudge to settle. (and I've been sucking up to both of them soooo nicely... )

[Alneyan]

Same as Primitive here, I would merely like to know if the Talisman is welcomed here or not. I gather that if is it on, both teams will go for it, and as quickly as possible. (I haven't made any calculation about how many turns you need, but my wild guess would be somewhere between turn 30 and turn 40)

As for openers, I do believe you could have three such ships running as early as turn 30. (And possibly before) You merely need 350,000 research points to have SM II, and then you have about 10 turns to get SM III for 450,000 research points (not much with three homeworlds). The main problem will obviously be to get the resources needed for the retrofitting part, so you might need one or two more turns. If you are really doing well, it might even be possible to reach SM IV in time (for an additional 800,000 research points), but don't quote me on that.

So I would be strongly against Warp Openers (and Warp Closers, as closing all wormholes would be quite a problem), but I don't have a strong opinion on the Talisman as long as both teams agree either to take it or to forget it. It wouldn't do if only one team had this device for example, while the other decided to invest in Organics Extraction.

Why Slynky, I need to get even for this certain KOTH game, but in the light of our recent games, I will be benevolent towards your people. Well, I will not put them in the same kind of thrall as Parabolize's subjects, if you get my meaning. (Am I too confident? It could be the aforementioned propaganda that is showing up)

I obviously hadn't been clear enough in my earlier edit. I had actually accepted a veto of Opener tech several Posts ago

So here is my proposed game:

The Grudge-Match of Doom
Mark/Slynky vs Primitive/Alneyan

Medium spiral (with teams together on their own side of the map)
3 Good planets
100000 starting resources
Yes to Intel
No to Ancient Race
No to Warp openers (by agreement, leaving all other stellar manip tech available)
Max ships
Max units
All other settings as default (so Religious is available)

Are we sufficiently agreed? Who can set up the game for us?

Mark

[ May 29, 2004, 09:55: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ]

[Slynky]

The Grudge-Match of Doom
Mark/Slynky vs Primitive/Alneyan

Add "no ruins"

Also, not that it's a big thing, but I get tired of warpholes always being at the edge...I like the danger of not knowing where they are, so how about "warp points located anywhere"?

And isn't there a setting for "limit Primitive's ship count to 25"? We should turn that one on, too.

As to game setter-uppers, Geo might be reading and put aside his school books for a moment. The Baron has assisted in this before but I know he said his time has become limited. Same for Tesco. Considering it's a game with quite a few high rankings at stake, Asmala might step in and get us started.

Whoever does it, should generate (with ruins turned off) a medium spiral map that "looks good" for a team game and one that leans toward the large size (I've noticed that the size of the maps generated with medium can sometimes be kind of small).