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TerranC · #1 January 9th, 2004, 04:04 AM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

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God is the number one cause of death throughout history, afterall.

again, it's ambitious leader's who were probably athiests and intollerance.

Many ambitious and great leaders, thinkers, doers, and etc had belonged to a certain religion, and some were even devout.

Cipher7071 · #2 January 9th, 2004, 04:23 AM

Well, ya learn something new every day, I guess. I knew those old muskets were nowhere near as good as what we have today, but I never realized they were quite that bad. So the natives lost to fear and surprise more than they did to superior weaponry.

narf poit chez BOOM · #3 January 9th, 2004, 04:23 AM

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Many ambitious and great leaders, thinkers, doers, and etc had belonged to a certain religion, and some were even devout.

indeed. and not all of them were evil. i might also point out that evil people tend to worship themselves.

Fyron · #4 January 9th, 2004, 04:24 AM

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Well, ya learn something new every day, I guess. I knew those old muskets were nowhere near as good as what we have today, but I never realized they were quite that bad. So the natives lost to fear and surprise more than they did to superior weaponry.

And to the steel currais that the conquistadors wore, which deflected arrows and spears rather well. And then the belief (initially) that they were ancient gods returned.

Fyron · #5 January 9th, 2004, 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
indeed. and not all of them were evil. i might also point out that evil people tend to worship themselves.

Most ambitious leaders throughout history have been rather religious.

Loser · #6 January 9th, 2004, 04:33 AM

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Most ambitious leaders throughout history have been rather religious.

eh?

Well, it's only anecdotal evidence, but: Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Hussein (ambition there, not so much success), no really enthusiastic religion there.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Fyron · #7 January 9th, 2004, 04:35 AM

I was talking about the whole of history, not recent times. Atheism is much more accepted in the modern eras than it has been in ancient eras.

Though, Stalin and Hitler did kill a lot of people because of their religious views... my initial comment had nothing to do with the person in charge being especially religious...

[ January 09, 2004, 02:36: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]