Game of the Year for 2003/Good & Bad

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Loser:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Worst game is tied for that Civ 3 expansion (because it is part of Civ 3) and MOO3.

Ouch. At least Civ III ws playable.

[edit: 2 != 3]

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So? There are a lot of horrid games that are "playable." And besides, part of the problem with Civ 3 is the evil marketing BS they pulled with it, splitting the game into 3 parts so they could milk more money without adding ANY meaningful features in any of the expansions. Civ 3 + 2 expansions at their best almost equal Civ 2 Gold at its worst, save some really stupid things like removing the hit point/firepower system of Civ 2 that helped tremendously over Civ 1. No comparison at all to Civ 2 ToT.

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Fyron and I are on the same page when it comes to Civ 3. In fact I think it was how we started talking. You should do a search for Civ 3, Civ III or something like that.

[Growltigger]

Loser, I bought Mediaval when I had my old machine (a 500Hz Celeron with about 4GB of hard drive and a really lousy voodoo graphics card). The game was appalling.

Then tried it on my new machine (3GB Hz 120GB hard drive with a Radeon Pro) and oh lordy, it is really someone rather special indeed oh yes oh yes indeedy. Damn I love it.

[oleg]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You can't really compare a free download to a purchased expansion... expansions are supposed to add new hard-code features, not just changed data sets.

I disagree. What if Aaron decided to hide data files inside the .exe file like other dudes do ? Than the SAME change will be regarded as a "new hard-code feature, not just changed data sets".

It is a testimony to the MM greatness and a shame on the major games developers that incrediably radical game play change can be so easily ridiculed by you !

[DavidG]

Best Game of the year:

F1 2003. (F1 racing game for PS2 by Sony)
(maybe that is, if I could play it)

Worst marketing descision of the year:

Sony's descission not to release game in North America and their exclusive deal with the FIA meaning no one else can make an F1 PS2 game either.

[Loser]

Medieval Total War runs great on my machine, a 2.4 GHz P4 with a mid-grade GeForce4, it just took up a lot of space that I needed for other things. I'm sure I'll put it back on when I get a new, larger SCSI hard drive.

[gregebowman]

My favorite game of the 2003 was definitely GalCiv. I didn't buy that many games Last year to have a dis-favorite game, although it sounded like MOO3 wins hands down from just about everybody.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by oleg:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You can't really compare a free download to a purchased expansion... expansions are supposed to add new hard-code features, not just changed data sets.

I disagree. What if Aaron decided to hide data files inside the .exe file like other dudes do ? Than the SAME change will be regarded as a "new hard-code feature, not just changed data sets".

It is a testimony to the MM greatness and a shame on the major games developers that incrediably radical game play change can be so easily ridiculed by you !

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Umm... there was not even a trace of any form of ridicule in my post. Not sure where you got that from... Aaron has included changes to the data sets in patches. That is what patches are for. The point of an expansion is to expand the game in ways that can only be done by the developer. Of course, when you have games that are unmoddable, changes to the data sets are hidden as just being that, and so they often get marketed as expansions, but most expansions still have some hard-code changes. And, naturally, changes to the data sets are perfectly reasonable (and expected) in expansions, as long as the entirety of the expansion is not something that could be achieved through modding alone.