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January 14th, 2004, 07:13 AM
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Re: OT Do you care were the products you buy are made
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Originally posted by Narrew:
Like Fyron said, as long as it works and is not shoddy, I don't worry about it, I would think twice if was French made, but I don't drink wine and thats all I can think of that they sell that I would buy (yes, my reason is political, but thats just me).
As far as everything from China *sigh*, thats the way it seems, I notice alot of JOBs going to India, nothing against India or any other country, but I wonder how long companis will do that till they smarten up and pull those jobs back here?
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I think from political stand point China is a lot more noxious than France.
I understand why some people don't like France - but China was right behind it on the Iraq issue -France just took the lead.
France doesn't let it's corporations run defacto work camps and dump untreated toxic waste into the environment. Not to mention that China is an authoritarian regime.
Anyway all those jobs lost are never coming back until American workers are willing to live in the same conditions that workers of third world countries live OR we force any corporation that sells in the U.S. to provide their workers with the same wages and follow the same environmental laws that we expect them to have here.
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January 14th, 2004, 07:16 AM
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Re: OT Do you care were the products you buy are made
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Originally posted by rextorres:
I think from political stand point China is a lot more noxious than France.
I understand why some people don't like France - but China was right behind it on the Iraq issue -France just took the lead.
France doesn't let it's corporations run defacto work camps and dump untreated toxic waste into the environment. Not to mention that China is an authoritarian regime.
Anyway all those jobs lost are never coming back until American workers are willing to live in the same conditions that workers of third world countries live OR we force any corporation that sells in the U.S. to provide their workers with the same wages and follow the same environmental laws that we expect them to have here.
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They can come back the day when third world countries have the same standard as the I-world nations..
Last year 30% of the worlds population took the step up from poverty, 17.7 billions now have the same living standard as the "west".
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January 14th, 2004, 07:38 AM
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Re: OT Do you care were the products you buy are made
raising the standard of living world-wide and introducing democracy will benifit the world.
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January 14th, 2004, 07:55 AM
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Re: OT Do you care were the products you buy are made
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Last year 30% of the worlds population took the step up from poverty, 17.7 billions now have the same living standard as the "west".
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17.7 billion doesn't sound right because that's more than the population of the whole world.
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January 14th, 2004, 08:00 AM
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Re: OT Do you care were the products you buy are made
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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
raising the standard of living world-wide and introducing democracy will benifit the world.
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So apparently you agree with the Bush Jr. adminstration's current reasons for the Iraq war. 
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January 14th, 2004, 09:22 AM
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reason's? sort of. methods? not really. results? debatable.
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January 14th, 2004, 09:26 AM
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quality and craftsmanship. while politics amuse me, and i certainly have my share of views on them, i dont let them effect my day-to-day life. which is probably why my world view disgusts so many people.
but back to quality and craftsmanship, there are some regional and national determinations for that. Asia tends to have crap for metal. Some good craftsmen and companies to buy tools from, but you better do your research and make sure that their metal is imported.
A handfull of European countries produce fine clothing. Lots of places produce quality and durable casual-wear, but i sure as heck wouldn't buy suits from "lots of places."
All told, im a big supporter of the global economy. it has its down sides, but I like it both as an idea, and in practice (realizing full well its a very different animal in theory and in practice [assuming that you take theory to equal propoganda, it could be argued that theory and practice are actually identical])
what i REALLY hate, are people who use nested parenthetical statements in forum Posts. jackasses.
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