SEV discussion: Mines

[DavidG]

Originally posted by se5a:
ok, I think I see what your saying.

if a mine attempts to destroy/damage a ship and fails does the mine still exist? or has it destroyed itself in the attempt?

Well the way I envision it still exists. it just failed to detect the ship. (I always think of SE4 mines as movable. ie they sense and the home in on a ship. IF the just sat there waiting to be hit... Well space is BIG really really BIG)

[Paul1980au]

Like an expanded experience type

Ie overall experience values
Experience vs fighters
Experience vs drones
Experience in mines (detection and laying and navigating around)
Experience in well other areas.

You might have 10 or so different experience breakdowns that would affect combat more so in an expanded way instead of just the basic fleet and ship experience.

This might also lead to new technology and alien technology types + new events ie ship was attacked by space pirates in fighters or drones (or oterhs) and has gained 3% experience points when in combat against fighters.

[Captain Kwok]

Here is another way mines could work:

The chances for a mine to hit a ship could be a simple chance formula where the maximum mines that can be in a sector represents a 100% hit chance for ships passing through. Each mine laid counts as a % of that total. For example with a 100 mine limit, if you had 20 mines that'd be 20% to hit chance for each ship passing through. So, say 50 ships were passing through in that example without minesweepers, perhaps 10 ships would take damage or be destroyed.

[LonghornXtreme]

My biggest grip about the mine system in se4 is that there's no way to detect the mine fields (correct me if i'm wrong... i'm still a newb)... This is a realism issue that doesnt' involve any micro short of researching the proper scanning tech...

Seems to me that any mine large enough to blow up a huge ship should be visible orbiting a planet... I DO like the idea of not being able to tell on the other side of a warp point but once in system or say once your reach the range of your scanners you should be able to spot which sectors have mines and the approximate size....

Just a little pet peeve about mines in SE4

[Grand Lord Vito]

Thats all you have to is put up a fast mine field in se4 and that should stop the AI cold

[Suicide Junkie]

Originally posted by Paul1980au:
Like an expanded experience type

Ie overall experience values
Experience vs fighters
Experience vs drones
Experience in mines (detection and laying and navigating around)
Experience in well other areas.

You might have 10 or so different experience breakdowns that would affect combat more so in an expanded way instead of just the basic fleet and ship experience.

This might also lead to new technology and alien technology types + new events ie ship was attacked by space pirates in fighters or drones (or oterhs) and has gained 3% experience points when in combat against fighters.

How about having [%experience%] as a legal variable to use in the equations?

It could affect anything any way you want, then.

[Fyron]

My biggest grip about the mine system in se4 is that there's no way to detect the mine fields (correct me if i'm wrong... i'm still a newb)... This is a realism issue that doesnt' involve any micro short of researching the proper scanning tech...

Actually there is never any way to detect mines in stock SE4, other than crashing into them. Some mods (such as Adamant) make mines detectable, with actual cloaking components instead of super-cloaking built into the hulls.