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January 31st, 2004, 05:09 AM
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Re: future Interplanetary Civilization discussion.
so, obviously you favor, at most, a loose alliance. if you'll note, i made provision for discussion's on how that might be run...or not be run.
but why should the outcasts be relegated to a rough life on the frontier? why can't civilization accomadate them to?
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January 31st, 2004, 06:33 AM
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Re: future Interplanetary Civilization discussion.
How would an Interplanetary Society function?
I guess that would depend upon how long it took for communications to travel about that society.
For example, if there was a lag of hours/days or days/weeks for communications/travel between planets, you would certainly have to have a LOT of local authority. Whereas, in the case of near instantaneous communication/travel, a more centralized authority would be possible.
Also are there hostile elements out there on the fringes? That would tend to favor a centralized authority as well...
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January 31st, 2004, 06:37 AM
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Re: future Interplanetary Civilization discussion.
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but why should the outcasts be relegated to a rough life on the frontier? why can't civilization accomadate them to?
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Because the outcasts are too smart to give civilization a chance to screw them over. 
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January 31st, 2004, 06:56 AM
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Re: future Interplanetary Civilization discussion.
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Also are there hostile elements out there on the fringes? That would tend to favor a centralized authority as well...
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actually, that seems like another point for debat.
i think that if there where hostile elements within reasonable space travel, we'd already be conquered.
well, that's kinda vague.
um, no conspiracy theory's on that Last please. 
[ January 31, 2004, 04:59: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]
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February 2nd, 2004, 06:41 PM
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Re: future Interplanetary Civilization discussion.
what, all these sf buffs and nobody's interested?
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February 2nd, 2004, 07:42 PM
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Re: future Interplanetary Civilization discussion.
IMO, we don't have enough information to make useful predictions. Interplanetary law will evolve organically, based on immediate needs.
Frex, when we have interplanetary colonies, what will happen when one tries to declare independence? Whether they can do it will depend a lot on who founded the colony and what its purpose was.
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February 2nd, 2004, 08:19 PM
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Re: future Interplanetary Civilization discussion.
interstellar empire possibilites will depend on two things: communication and travel time
without high ftl communication and travel, no empire is possible
its possible, just barely, to hold an empire together with travel and communication time measured in weeks
more than that, and it simply won't work long term - if it is six weeks between when a colony rebels and you find out about it, and another six weeks to get any forces there to do something, the rebel colony will be pretty much lost to the empire by the time the troops arrive
with delay measured in weeks, a loose confederacy is about the most that is possible
if travel/communications measured in years due to non-ftl travel, no empire possible beyond local star system
if travel/communications measured in days or less, pick a government - any large-scale government that has worked for a time on earth could work for a time in space - with the proviso that people could flee a long long ways
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