Soy Bad?

[Wardad]

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:
I tried a soy product once and didn't like it, I won't make that mistake again. The same thing goes for Tofu, yuk! When I want something with little to no taste, I'll take mushrooms any day.

Cheers!

or Potatoes

[ March 07, 2004, 20:37: Message edited by: Wardad ]

[Baron Munchausen]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

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Originally posted by TerranC:
Fyron, as an east asian, I've been eating soy all my life, and if there is one thing I can tell you about soy or soy-derived products is that Soy is anything but poisonous.

yeah, but aren't all east asians short?

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Not 'all', just the ones who eat the traditional diet of mostly rice. And it's the rice that stunts them. There is an enzyme in it that inhibits the absorption of iron and the lack of iron slows their growth down. When they come to the US and start eating like Americans they get taller (and unfortunately also get the same diet-related diseases as other Americans... )

[Siegebreaker]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
There is an enzyme in it that inhibits the absorption of iron and the lack of iron slows their growth down.

Do you have any links to back up this statement?

Sorry, its just that I always thought that rice was a "clean" product.

[Baron Munchausen]

From a project page on genetic alteration of rice to improve third-world nutrition:

http://dragon.zoo.utoronto.ca/~J02T0101A/nutrition.htm

Iron rich rice could be on its way very shortly. Researchers are focusing on three different transgenes to solve the iron deficiency problem (11).

* Gene encoding the phytase enzyme that breaks down phytate; a molecule that prevents absorption of the ingested iron by binding to iron in the gut.
* Gene encoding for a cysteine rich protein which helps iron absorption in the gut.
* Gene encoding the protein ferritin that stores iron in the rice grains.

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Apparently 'phytate' is present in most or all of the grains that people eat, but either the phytate content of rice is very high or it's harder to properly seperate the phytate from the rest of the grain (milling to remove the husk) because iron deficiency is a big problem in the regions of the world where rice is eaten as the bulk of the diet. Yet vegetarians elsewhere in the world who live only on grains & vegetables don't (necessarily) have iron deficiency problems. So it's not necessarily lack of meat that leads to iron deficiency.

[ March 09, 2004, 05:18: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

[Kamog]

Argh, shouldn't have eaten all that rice when I was growing up. Then maybe I'd be taller today. Oh well, it's too late now.

[Renegade 13]

Ah, there's the problem! Don't eat rice...eat good food, like beef! Ok ok, I'm biased (son of a cattle rancher!), but look at me, I'm tall and in good shape, and I credit all the meat in my diet. So come on all of you vegetarians out there, hop on the meat bandwagon! You know you want to.....

Muahahahahhahaha

[Wizarc]

And what is even worse, when you go to her web page she promotes her "friends". I saw something about milk is bad and everyone should be drinking Raw Milk instead. Also, cereal is bad for you. Hell I eat cereal for breakfast, lunch, and dinner...i'm kinda lazy in my old age.

Just like the egg scare: good, bad, good for now.

Sheesh!