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				new cloaking idea problem.
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I've created a new set of cloaking devices for my mod.  One for each type of cloak.  However, I noticed that another race entered one of my systems with a Level 8 EM Passive cloaking device activated, and I could see his ship.  I didn't have any sensors in the system.  His ship had the cloaked circle around it.   
 
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		All ships my default get IIRC one level EM active and one level EM Passive. If your cloak doesn't cover those you'll be seen even without sensors. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		What are the abilities for that cloaking device? The device must have at least a level 2 in ALL FIVE types of cloaking ability, or it will be visible to ships without any sensors. 
 
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EDIT: Oh wait. Maybe Phoenix is right and it only needs active and passive. I thought by default ships had level 1 in all five, but what he says does make more sense. 
  
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		IIRC ships only get level 1 EM Active by default... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		How about Partnerships?  Are you his Partner or Partner with a Partner of his.  That would effectively void the cloak. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Just give every cloaking device that you want to be able to operate independantly of other cloaking components level 2 cloak in all cloak areas (at least). This will force you not to create level 1 scanners of any type, thus relieving any possible confusion.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Did you have an ally present in the system who has the necessary sensor to see through the cloak? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Tweaking the cloaking system can lead to unexpected outcomes. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Cloak modding is sometimes very problamatic. 
 
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		Does the collective hive mind know what is the maximum level for cloaking and scanning that works? 
 
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