OT: Election 2004

[Baron Munchausen]

Originally posted by dogscoff:

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However what is done is done. Time to move forward and think about the future.

No! I get really angry when i hear this. The truth about this war needs to come out, and the guilty need to be punished. Bush and Blair are appealing to the short attention-spans of their populations to try to avoid the repercussions of their illegal war- "Oh, the Iraq war, that was so Last year. Let's talk about something else now." How would it be if Nixon had dragged out the Watergate investigations for a year and then said "are you still talking about Watergate? What is done is done. Aren't you bored of that yet? Here, look at this bright shiny thing over here! Look! Look!"

I won't "move forward" until I see B&B in front of some kind of trial or hearing to establish the truth, and if they are found to be guilty of
deceiving their people and causing thousands of deaths under false pretexts and for dubious motivations, they should be kicked out of office at the very least, or even locked up.

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Amen. I want to see GWB at the least sent to the Hague where he can have Milosovic as a cellmate. And maybe the bulk of his administration should go with him.

[Lord Chane]

Originally posted by Roanon:
A country or nation cannot be "evil". Whatever this is. Peoples may be, leaders may be, but I don't think you can say USA itself is evil or that every US citizen is evil.

As defined by the dictionary evil, in this context, means "Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant." So I suppose a nation can be evil if it can be said to be morally bad or wrong. The catch, at least from my perspective, is who decides on the morals we use to decide if a person or nation is morally bad? From the point of view of the US Saddam clearly met the definition of evil. Its equally clear though that some Arab nations and sizeable number of Moslem devotees view the US as the evil entity in this equation. I think the best we can say is that a person or country is evil from a given moral perspective.

[tesco samoa]

Roanan I was commenting on the word evil in this thread...
I was saying

Renegade 13. by the def'n of evil in this thread.

USA is evil . The war of ideology / economy cost millions of peoples lives, proped up dictators, overthrown popular movements.

[Roanon]

Ah, I had misunderstood this one, Tesco.
By Bush's own definition of evil, of course he is. Now I wonder if he will attack himself, go to Guantanamo, and let himself treat in violation of any international laws concerning the treatment of POWs.

[Intimidator]

Amen. I want to see GWB at the least sent to the Hague where he can have Milosovic as a cellmate. And maybe the bulk of his administration should go with him.

Sorry BARON, I do NOT agree with you.
And don't understand me wrong, I'm against GWB.

But I life in Holland (The Hague lies in Holland as you probably know). And The U.S. signed a bill 2 years ago (7 june - 2002) to invade every country where American military personal is kept in prisson for war-crimes, And they we're absolutly refering to Holland.

I'm laughing about it but believe me it's no joke, I'm death serious.

[Master Belisarius]

Was reading this, and seems hard to believe to me...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...tweaponssearch

From here, can't say if it's a manipulated notice, but make fun about this matter, when many people died for this reason (if we admit the President's good faith), doesn't seems right to me.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

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