OT: What Has The World Come To

PvK · #1 April 5th, 2004, 06:35 AM

My opinion:

Here in the LAND OF LIBERTY, I think it is utter BS to have laws against:

Leaving your kids in the car.
Not wearing a seatbelt.
Not wearing a bike helmet.

Education is how you get people to behave prudently. Here in the LAND OF THE FREE, laws like these should not exist.

PvK

Atrocities · #2 April 6th, 2004, 01:56 AM

Oh but PvK these laws are in place to protect you from your freedoms.

In a society that has to have warning lables on electricle appliances warning people not to use them in the shower or bath should say it all.

A free society is a dumb one, so we need these laws to save us.

[ April 05, 2004, 12:57: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Yef · #3 April 5th, 2004, 02:18 PM

Yes, I hate that law about the seat belt.

I understand a law when it protects others from me, but a law that supposely protects me from myself its a violation of my freedom. I have never used seatbelts, and I will not use them. Period.

geoschmo · #4 April 5th, 2004, 02:55 PM

Seat belts and helmets don't just save lives, they lessen injuries. People don't always die from their injuries. Sometimes they are seriously injured and incapacitated. The cost of their health care falls, at best, to everyone else in their health plan, and at worst to the all of us through government assistance.

But I would support people being allowed to sign a waiver that says they can drive without a belt/helmet if they agree not to accept the use of of community health care resources that would not have otherwise been used to care for them.

And I'm not talking about a DNR here. I mean even injuries that you would probably have recovered from. If you can't pay your bill out of pocket without my insurance premiums or taxes, I'd rather let natural selection take it's course and give my money to someone with enough sense to buckle up thank you.

No offense. Don't want to step on your freedoms after all.

Captain Kwok · #5 April 5th, 2004, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yef:
Yes, I hate that law about the seat belt.

I understand a law when it protects others from me, but a law that supposely protects me from myself its a violation of my freedom. I have never used seatbelts, and I will not use them. Period.

I sure hope in your protest against oppression, you never get ejected through the windshield.

Atrocities · #6 April 5th, 2004, 03:07 PM

Riding a bike, peddle, motor, whatever, without a helmet is just plain dangerous. I know from first hand accounts and many hours of helping people who have been injured. Some did not make it because they opted not to ware a helmet and their heads hit the fallen trees over the trails. To many poeple ride without helmates and they pay the price.

geoschmo · #7 April 5th, 2004, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
To many poeple ride without helmates and they pay the price.

But that's the point. They pay the price, but they don't pay the BILL.

I am all for freedom. By all means, live free or die to your hearts content. But if you are going to do the first, do the second one quickly and don't ask me to pay for your intensive care stay.