OT: Atrocities

primitive · #1 May 1st, 2004, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Stone Mill:
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1. News agencies are reporting that the SSgt who ran the camp somewhat claimed something to the effect that he wasn't trained on the geneva convention. Hogwash. I remember during my service that was reinforced ad nauseum, from basic training to promotion tests. He should have known better.

Geneva convention ?
AFAIK the Geneva convention is not in effect in Iraq. The Geneva convention regulates (among other things) how to treat prisoners of war. Apart from Saddam himself (and maybe a select few others) there are no Prisoners of War in Iraq. Only detainees and terror suspects. The great GWB himself set the standard how to treat those when he set both the Geneva convention and US law aside with the Guantamo prisoners. Why should the prisoners in Iraq have a different and better status ? The blame goes all the way to the top.

primitive · #2 May 1st, 2004, 11:01 PM

Re: LordOffenders (the sock puppet ?) post.
This really fails to piss me off. Ignorant Idiots are everywhere. They are only dangerous when assembled in large numbers (like in Al Qaeda or the KKK) or when elected president

Baron Munchausen · #3 May 1st, 2004, 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Will:

--edit2: ... and I just noticed that LordOffender's first post was this one. At the risk of going off topic -- Welcome to the Boards, LordOffender. Please don't get discouraged by the "hot-button" threads like these, we really are all nice people, it's just there can be some heated disagreements

Exactly. We're all familiar with the concept of a TROLL here, aren't we? Doesn't the name strike you as a bit suspicious?

[ May 01, 2004, 22:49: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

Will · #4 May 2nd, 2004, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:

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Originally posted by Will:

--edit2: ... and I just noticed that LordOffender's first post was this one. At the risk of going off topic -- Welcome to the Boards, LordOffender. Please don't get discouraged by the "hot-button" threads like these, we really are all nice people, it's just there can be some heated disagreements

Exactly. We're all familiar with the concept of a TROLL here, aren't we? Doesn't the name strike you as a bit suspicious?

Oh, I am quite familiar with the concept of trolling. I've read /. before you know

But, if you take a look at his member profile, he joined April 8th. So he's been lurking around for at least three weeks, and decided to post first on this topic. I would think that a troll would begin posting inflammatory stuff as soon as registration went through, not three weeks later.

I give the benefit of the doubt. Especially when I know a lot of otherwise very decent people who hold the same opinions about what should be done with the Iraqis, and just what corner of Hell they should burn in. All of it is nonsense to those of us who realize that Iraqis are people just like us, but oversimplification, revenge, jingoism, etc. get in the way sometimes for others.

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro · #5 May 3rd, 2004, 07:38 PM

Well, I just read that the American's aren't the only ones now charged with prisoner abuse. Some rogue members of the British Army absolutely went nutso on some prisoners in Basra. Beaten within inches of their life, then thrown from a moving truck, Last known fate unknown. When found out, the officer in charge told them to get rid of the evidence! Not to stop but to make sure they aren't found out.
at www.themirror.co.uk
I'd like to think that I'd be a fair and just person, but dealing with that level of danger and frustration day in and day out I could probably just as easily go medieval on some poor soul.
Why wasn't Al Jazzera reporting on items like this when it was going on ALL THE TIME

tesco samoa · #6 May 3rd, 2004, 08:36 PM

why register to just say that

careful trolls about

Atrocities · #7 May 3rd, 2004, 11:23 PM

After seeing the footage and such, I was shocked and appauled at what they were doing. Who in their right mind would for an instant believe that that kind of miss conduct would be acceptable?

They desearve to be court marsheled and sent to Lebonsworth for a good long while for that. Terrorist or not, POW or not, NO ONE has the right to do what they did to another human being. Totaly inapproprate.

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I must also say that what the Iraqis are doing to the people they kidnap is most distrubing, far more so than what has happened in the prisons. I feel that the only thing people like that understand is force. Unfortunetly far to many inocent victims must pay the price for ending the violence.

[ May 03, 2004, 22:27: Message edited by: Atrocities ]