Cursed Talisman

se5a · #1 June 13th, 2004, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by General Woundwort:
thinking it over, making the Talisman power a "mount" wouldn't work either, what's to prevent the player from putting it on all his weapons? Then we're back to square one...

not if the mount increses the price, size, and/or decreaces the damage of the said weapon, also it would not effect PDC.

spoon · #2 June 13th, 2004, 03:53 AM

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Originally posted by aiken:
...and make Talisman completely useless. Seriously, nobody will use such overpriced and overweighted component on a warships and whole Religious trait becomes racial points waster.

I'm pretty sure he didn't mean apply all of those things at once... just showing a bunch of different ways to balance it. The "automatic hit" in and of itself isn't unbalancing. But coupled with the small size and cheapness it has in Stock SE4, it sure is.

Karibu · #3 June 13th, 2004, 08:09 AM

Simpliest and the best way to balance talisman is to take off its automatic hit and make it a component, which gives you for example 20% for attack and which would stack with combat sensor. Then it would not be all powerful (assuming they would still require 50 kt of space).

Paul1980au · #4 June 13th, 2004, 11:02 AM

All great ideas if it is goign to carry forward into SE5

Atrocities · #5 June 13th, 2004, 12:41 PM

I wonder how many times this thing has been talked about?

It is just so damn lethal and when you watch your fleet be obliterated by a race employing this technology, you just wanna scream - FOUL! "Thats NOT fair!"

Joachim · #6 June 14th, 2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
I wonder how many times this thing has been talked about? It is just so damn lethal and when you watch your fleet be obliterated by a race employing this technology, you just wanna scream - FOUL! "Thats NOT fair!"

Yep, thats what prompted my post.

It breaks the game, especially in large PBW games. The only challenge for the talisman wielder is can I Last 50 turns - then it is slaughter time.

Atrocities · #7 June 14th, 2004, 01:56 AM

The best way to beat him is to be like him. When setting up a game choose religious tech and max out your aggressive and defensive characteristics, or ban religious technology all together from the game.