OT: I just caught some punk

narf poit chez BOOM · #1 June 17th, 2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by sachmo:

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Originally posted by Combat Wombat:
Don't shoot then with a rifle or a pistol. Get a stungun and shoot them till they are squirming uncontrolablely on the ground. Then call the police. It's non-lethal, so it cool.

It's still assault, and illegal. You better have damn good reason, and preferably a witness or two.

'They were skulking about my property at night' seems to me a perfectly good reason for bodily harm. And as for proof, that's what the camera's are for.

Puke · #2 June 17th, 2004, 10:07 PM

have you ever been hit with a stungun or pepper spray? it mainly serves to piss you off. sure it hurts, but it does not take very long to figure out that its not killing you, and after that you have an angry person with alot of adreniline on your hands.

and like the man said, its illegal to assault someone with a non-leathal weapon. if you dont want to risk retaliation and incarceration for vigalante actions, starting a joint action program with your neighbors is probably the best thing to do. police or sheriffs departments usually support or sponsor such things.

and there are popup adds for those x10 cameras all over the f-cking internet. I hate to endorse popup ad spammers, but they are the most widely known, cheap, effective spycam type thing. there are probably similar things from all sorts of different vendors, web-cam sorts of things.

sachmo · #3 June 18th, 2004, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

quote:
Originally posted by sachmo:

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Originally posted by Combat Wombat:
Don't shoot then with a rifle or a pistol. Get a stungun and shoot them till they are squirming uncontrolablely on the ground. Then call the police. It's non-lethal, so it cool.

It's still assault, and illegal. You better have damn good reason, and preferably a witness or two.
'They were skulking about my property at night' seems to me a perfectly good reason for bodily harm. And as for proof, that's what the camera's are for.

Try to explain that to the jury. You'll probably get sentenced to more time than the guy slinking around in the shadows.

narf poit chez BOOM · #4 June 18th, 2004, 03:04 AM

Yes, well, that's one of the problems with jury's. Anyone skulking about is a) up to no good. b) A potential killer.

I'd move to Texas, but I don't like sweat.

Azselendor · #5 June 18th, 2004, 03:23 AM

About ten years ago, the house next door to me was taken over by some druggies and hobos. The place got trashed and there were little petty thefts (food, penny jars, and stuff).

The lady on the corner tried to use her leverage on the city council to force them out to no avail, but the problem solved itself eventually.

The tree behind the house was dead and lightening hit it during one storm. The tree then collapsed on to thier propane tank triggering an explosion that blew out nearly every wall in the house.

Then to top it off, the property owner tried to collect insurance on it. The insurance company somehow, magically, stupendously learned about it's prior condition to the explosion and promptly terminated the insurance policy citing that it was "Preventable". By the time the notice for that arrived, City Code Enforcement fined him 50,000 dollars and placed a lien against his holdings.

As for security, I always found broken glass sprinkled on top of my wall effective. Sometimes mixed in with the cement too.

Naturally, if they get over that, the rose bush is waiting for them.

LonghornXtreme · #6 June 18th, 2004, 09:28 AM

I can't believe how scary some state's gun laws are...

I don't think Portland and I would mix very well...

Yes I have used a gun to defend my apt, as well as my parents house when I still lived there 4 years ago. The amazing thing about Texas is that the thieves KNOW you can legally shoot and kill them without legal repercussion if they're on your property (mortgaged or not). I have had the satisfaction of watching the thief who was trying to steal my truck with a crowbar get cuffed and carted away from my house. Because my truck was parked behind my house and with nowhere to run... he accepted the fact that he was going to sit on his hands in the middle of my drive way until the cops showed up... the thieves also know that the "he shot me in the back" excuse doesn't work as long as the body falls on your property in a Texas court.

I've never pulled the trigger but I do know when it comes to my family and property and the possiblity of harm to either...

I know many people think us Texans are crazy... but i beg to differ. Threat of force is an important concept that most of ya'll should understand just from playing this game. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens has to be one of the worst possible moves for the integrity individual freedom this country claims to love so dearly.

Numerous times all its taken when a prowler is around is a simple "clack clack" of my good ol remington 12 chambering a cartridge that sends the prowler hauling butt to get off your property.

I don't cary a concealed weapon. I don't keep one in my truck. But there is one in my safe and there is one in the closet with a trigger lock...

gregebowman · #7 June 18th, 2004, 07:24 PM

I think the law in Florida is that they have to be physically in your house and there is a fear of imminent damage to you or your loved ones before you can pull the trigger. So if the perp is leaving the house you can't shoot him in the back, especially if his body would fall outside of your house. Also, IIRC, you can't booby-trap your house like MacCauly Culken (?) did in those movies. I think most states have laws against that, even if someone is breaking into your house with guns and knives. Which is a shame, because it would be funny to seem some of these scumbags tarred and feathered like Joe Pesci and Daniel Stern were