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June 23rd, 2004, 12:07 PM
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GWB also stated many times that one of the main reasons that the US went into Iraq was to remove the Torture and Rape Prisions. Then it was mentioned many times afterwards that Iraqis did not have to fear the Rape Prisions.
As they where no more.
what is a soldier to do when their President was stating this over and over publically in every major address ?
Perhaps listen and understand that their actions will harm one of the few remaining items the President has to fall back on.
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June 23rd, 2004, 12:41 PM
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Wounwort- point taken, but sexism can be found anywhere. More so in modern Iraq than modern usa, almost certainly, due largely to the rise of Islamic fundamentalism- which in turn is due to heightened Western/Middle East tensions. However, the very fact that the woman in your article is allowed to show her face in public, that she can work as a reporter, that she can go around town unescorted with a foreign stranger shows that these attitudes have not yet taken hold completely: That they are the exception- an ugly, very noticable exception- rather than the norm.
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June 23rd, 2004, 03:41 PM
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I'd like to believe you're right, Dogscoff, but I have my doubts. He's right about one thing, though - it's a problem that military force alone won't be able to solve...
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June 23rd, 2004, 07:13 PM
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What the women need is to become trained killers. Nothing like knowing the person your trying to abuse can break your neck before you even finish reaching for your knife.
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June 24th, 2004, 11:01 AM
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Well, the Americans are known (among others) for being the only "western" country who still torture people, and of course they will do so; but I highly doubt it were the discussed soldiers orders to go and torture those Iraqi men, for most of them were just plain soldiers and rioting citizens (for what I've heard, I might be mistaken) who knew nothing.
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