Good game but some disappointments.....

[WendellM]

I think Shrapnel has a distributor handle their shipping, so whatever *they* charge is what Shrapnel ends up paying. $19 does sound kinda steep for overseas shipping, but I don't know the details. However, I imagine that Shrapnel isn't making money on shipping; they'd probably be happy to find a cheaper solution.

I know that I've held off on ordering some games from Europe due to the hellish shipping cost, hoping that they'd find a US distributor. However, I'll spend big bucks for shipping on quality titles like Europa Universalis even if they don't find a local distributor (or SE IV if I were in Europe).

[Ferendra]

Hi there,

I agree with you Markus, the shipment to europe is ridicously expensive. O.K. nobody
in the U.S. is responsible for the Euro to
be so low, but to tell people they lose money
in oversea shipment is definetly not o.k.
Nobody of my friends will pay $74 (DM 170,-) for a game. Shrapnel will not gain ground with the game in Europe as long as it is so high priced. And you have to know that *empire building* games in Europe are doing quite fine.

Greetings
Ferendra

BTW WendelIM, I bought Europa Universalis, and I think it is not worth the money.

[Richard]

Okay,

The 19 is not JUST for the shipping. Our shipper also has to fill out all sorts of forms to get the games sent internationally that add cost as well.

Eventually we may have shippers lined up in Europe or European retail done, but until then we have no choice but to sell this way.


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Sarge is coming...

Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com

[Possum]

With all due respect for everyone concerned, I don't have any problems with SE4 at all.

I've had it since Friday, and I have no complaints. The game is fine, the manual is fine, the music is fine, the shipping was fine. Furthermore, it strikes *me* as one HELL of a good game

I would suspect that perhaps some of the problems described here are found only when using simultaneous movement...

[-Thog-]

I'll need to try the turn-based movement. However, saying that there are no problems with the game in turn-based but that there may be in simultaneous is a very long way from saying that there are not problems with the game. Overall, my impression has taken a very large hit due to the problems (real or percieved) that I'm seeing in Simultaneous mode. Right now, I'm not inclined to recommend it, though hopefully it'll either be fixed or the turn based mode will change my outlook.

Thog

[Gooneybird]

I agree the shipping costs are too high. I also got the envelope with the 9$ postage fee on it, I cant help but feel a little bit snookered. Especially with the non-sense about all the international shipping paperwork. It says right on the envelope that if the package shipped is under a pound you don't have to fill in a declaration form.

Come'on who you trying to kid.

Its definitely a great game but 60$ thats 600sek, a good 150(15$) more than the average price here in sweden.

Oh well, lets see if any sanity comes into the shipping prices before I pony up for Steel Beasts.

-Gooney

[Richard]

I know it is hard for some of you to believe but we actually LOOSE money on shipping to some countries.

Once we get bigger this might change but for now we have to deal with reality unfourtanetly.

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Sarge is coming...

Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com