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		Danny, 
 
 Don't set higher 2000 is absoult max I think for the game. Anyhting higher should corrupt it, why you need more than 2000 anyway? 
 
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		Between mines, satilites, and fighters I can easily have 2000 of those in space at anyone time, I did in SEIII. 
 
If it corrupts it I'll change it back, anybody know where that setting is? 
 
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		I've never fiddled with the setting but I've had 200+ troops landing and clashing with equal numbers of enemy troops.  I think the limit must be applied to ships alone, not units.  And if you add up all the WPs, satellites, and mines I've had . . . 
 
Come to think of it, in the game I just played, I'd deployed hundreds of mines, had between 300-400 troops moving around in transports or stationed on planets, a force of 200 carrier-borne fighters, and I couldn't count how many dozens of weapons platforms were deployed.  Waaay more than 100 total and even more than 100 in each Category. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		The two settings are for number of ships in space (starts at 100, max 2000) and number of units in *space* (starts at 100, max 2000).  So I'm guessing this means you could have 2000 mines in space, and still 1000's of fighters, as long as they are on ships, or on planets.  At least thats how I interrupt the rule. 
 
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		In my first game with the full, I ended up building (and deploying) almost exactly 2000 mines and most never went off... (Long game.  Why?  I played peacefully for the first 70-80 turns or so, so the AIs managed to build up...  *strange* game, however; for instance, I don't believe any enemy ship EVER used armor -- just (normal) shields, which meant phased-polaron BCs and DNs rocked...). 
 
And I didn't change the slider, so if the default is 100, either the mines aren't counted at all, or each *minefield* counts as 1 (which could be done, since there probably isn't partial damage, supply or movement points bookkeeping for mines IIRC). 
 
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		That still doesn't really compute.  Troops and WPs would never be "in space" and I've often had way more than 100 mines deployed at wormholes at any given moment.  I don't remember if I've had that many fighters on the strategic map but I'm sure I must have had that many satellites deployed. 
 
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		Perhaps this is the source of the all die if one dies bug when no shields are included.     
It counts all as a single unit and so one dies... and all die.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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